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Honey have you seen the album charts recently? It is littered with straight up represses of historical releases. I think rethought collection of some widely unavailable tunes is a hell of lot more exciting than a Like A Virgin coloured vinyl or whatever Golden Oldie album is clogging up the charts.

Actually the more I think about this I reckon it will be a Digital Only release. The M.O. in recent years seems to be to increase her streaming presence...and It's working. Do we really think there'd be much of a market for a physical CD of her greatest remixes? Maybe 15 years ago but she late as hell on this one, We'll see I suppose. I can see maybe a couple of super deluxe formats for fans. Forget a vinyl for 50 songs ladies. Maybe an expensive CD boxset but as for standard triple CD release of straight remixes...I think we probably have to let that one go. Has Madame X live even been released on physicals yet? As in Blu Ray and Cd? Also... for the record...The best Ray Of Light remix is Sasha Twilo Mix. The levels, the Journey, the scape. The Ultraviolet mix is essentially a loop from start to finish. Twilo wins...Hands down above and away.....and that's that on that.

UNITED STATES OF MADONNA “Her 50 US billboard dance charts number 1’s” Would actually be B sweet if she released the God Control remixes and bagged a 51st.

Though it’s clear she is listening through all the songs so maybe she is “personally curating” as per the Warner’s Statement. This is never good for fans . Look at GHV2.

The single versions of You Can Dance remix album (Spotlight / where’s the party and Into The The Groove / Over & Over) were the promos sent out to Dj’s no? Spotlight being the leading song for that compilation and being released in territories would surely make it the most obvious choice for inclusion? Dunno.

Surely the title of this will be something to do with the number 1’s as that’s the concept huh? “One - Madonna” “Numero Uno” Or something like that. Though I’d like something from one of her songs like You Can Dance.

I know I’m just saying she has six children. Prince sadly didn’t have that pillar of duty to balance his thoughts and actions. I concur with a lot of what you said re his passing and as such is just doesn’t correlate to Madonna’s experience with a painful hip. I didn’t mean she was smarter than Prince I meant she’s smarter than letting herself develop a drug dependency at this stage in her career especially with 6 kids. Especially with the levels of substance abuse she has been surrounded with by her family and peers. Sorry for confusion.

Me : Yay Spotlight on a Madonna bits compilation. also me: i want it remixed and segued but also want an unmixed version available :/ As I said elsewhere I think this will be done as a fun quirky mixtape a bit like Club Future Nostalgia. Some hits will probably just have a few lines and there may even be some cute famous spoken Madonna quotes. “I wanna rule the world” ”I am an artist and this is how I choose to express myself” ”artist are here to disturb the peace” ”do something else do my eyebrows” etc

She’s got a film to fund. She gotta sell some of the family silver babes

I don’t think she likes drugs or will fall to them. She has six kids she is not Prince. She’s smarter than all that’s been said. She knows what makes her look edgy and likely says it to “piss people off”. it’s dumb PR but most of it has been since Liz left tbh. but she’ll be fine. Also can we stop laying this at her boyfriends door. He’s a hard working ambitious dancer with a mind for art and politics, that worked to the top of his game, not some low life leacher. Sean allegedly beat her up and Guy supposedly ignored her and was mentally cruel. I don’t remember anyone being Happy with anyone she’s been with tbh. She’s the one who’s hard work we know this. I’d need weed to be in a relationship with her.

Don’t forget the remixes of Hung Up Future Lovers we heard at that live club appearance she did with Honey Dijon etc. I imagine those were clues too.

Madonna's 50 Dance Club Songs No. 1s 1983, "Holiday"/"Lucky Star" (five weeks at No. 1) 1984, "Like a Virgin" (three) 1985, "Material Girl" 1985, "Angel"/"Into the Groove" 1987, "Open Your Heart" 1987, "Causing a Commotion (Remix)" 1988, "You Can Dance (LP Cuts)" 1989, "Like a Prayer" (two) 1989, "Express Yourself" (three) 1990, "Keep It Together" 1990, "Vogue" (two) 1991, "Justify My Love" (two) 1992, "Erotica" 1993, "Deeper and Deeper" 1993, "Fever" 1994, "Secret" (two) 1995, "Bedtime Story" 1997, "Don't Cry for Me Argentina" 1998, "Frozen" (two) 1998, "Ray of Light" (four) 1999, "Nothing Really Matters" (two) 1999, "Beautiful Stranger" (two) 2000, "American Pie" 2000, "Music" (five) 2001, "Don't Tell Me" 2001, "What It Feels Like for a Girl" 2001, "Impressive Instant" (two) 2002, "Die Another Day" (two) 2003, "American Life" 2003, "Hollywood" 2003, "Me Against the Music," Britney Spears featuring Madonna (two) 2004, "Nothing Fails" 2004, "Love Profusion" 2005, "Hung Up" (four) 2006, "Sorry" (two) 2006, "Get Together" 2006, "Jump" (two) 2008, "4 Minutes," Madonna featuring Justin Timberlake & Timbaland (two) 2008, "Give It 2 Me" 2009, "Celebration" 2012, "Give Me All Your Luvin'," Madonna featuring Nicki Minaj & M.I.A. 2012, "Girl Gone Wild" 2012, "Turn Up the Radio" 2015, "Living for Love" 2015, "Ghosttown" 2015, "B**** I'm Madonna," Madonna featuring Nicki Minaj 2019, "Medellín," Madonna & Maluma 2019, "I Rise" 2019, "Crave," Madonna & Swae Lee 2020, "I Don't Search I Find" it’s actually a bit of an odd list that’s really quite light on her more renowned 80’s stuff but love that there’s some odd ones on there. And there actually more than 50 songs if you count the double As and You Can Dance tracks. Like… It’d be cool to have Angel Causing A Commotion Spotlight Keep It Together Fever Nothing Really Matters American Pie Impressive Instant American Life Nothing Fails Love Profusion Nobody Knows Me Get Together Jump Give It 2 Me and the interscope singles on a Madonna compilation cause they wouldn’t stand a chance on a traditional two disc greatest hits and never have.

50 of them though? how? Thats like 3 cd’s worth of remixes. Do I believe that’s gonna happen? I don’t see it for us. Maybe a double CD but like a segued megamix like You Can Dance. A bit like the Dua Lipa / Blessed Madonna version of Future Nostalgia with some new features and stuff. Probably the new Swae version of Frozen too. Imagine if all this time she’s been secretly getting people to remix and feature on her old tracks as guests. Like all those Weeknd rumours from a while back? Who else has she been linked to in the last year or two? either way I’m here for it big time.

Keep It Together or bust this month. Make it happen mom. I need that single edit in my playlist.

I actually think the mumble Illuminati, Future and on some parts of Crave voice is another incarnation of her range. I personally love that version too and think it's another colour in her palette.

What's a Furry Bear precious?

While Like A Prayer& Erotica are my faves Bedtime is my most played Madonna album. It's a whole mood. It's my go to listen that I can put on anytime more than any of her others I was obsessed with the music leading up and including the peak of Neo Soul era in the 90's and I'm a big Meshell Ndegeocello fan too so I was thrilled to have her on the record and didn't know she was a Madonna signing (Peace Beyond Passion, Bitter and Plantation Lullabies are flawless records go check). Those records you can just put on with friends round, to chill, when you getting it, when you ain't getting it etc. Felt like Bedtime Stories really lent into that vibe. Those lounge albums were so big in the mid 90's. Secret is that quiet storm low key track that feels so right. Love the music of Survival but don't like the lyrics. I feel like her cadence was off a bit on this record and that comes through on a few of the songs leaving them a bit clunky or over simplistic. Inside of Me and Love Tried To Welcome Me are my favourites. I think both would have worked as singles. Not crazy about the Babyface songs these days but loved them at the time. They're the most of their time I suppose. Sanctuary and Bedtime Story (which lets be honest derailed the comeback campaign after Take A Bow) were those beautiful signposts to the next musical direction of Ray Of Light in many ways. Great tracks and while I'm used to the Bjorkisms now it did feel a bit "Tonight Matthew i'm gonna be Bjork" Start In Your Eyes vibz at the time. Don't Stop is perfectly serviceable cute bopp but it's a really obvious placing of "if things don't go to plan we need some basic bops to push out" The way the album invites you in with the almost mimicking soft whispery high voice (remember me in the squeaky early Madonna you fell in love with) and just when the listener is in the palm of her hand again, she crushes them with Human Nature. (the last real old Madonna TM song before she finally cocooned for four years only to rebirth herself in Ray Of Light) Absolutely No Regrets will be on her gravestone mark my words. Rounding out the album with Take A Bow. The end of old Madonna. I think it's a very deceivingly poetic album in that sense. The overall production is so warm and encompassing. Like a cocoon compared to the stark icy sounds of a bunch of Sheps productions on Erotica. Where Life Begins, Erotica and Waiting being the batons passed to Bedtime Stories. Much of the 90's to 03 employed this tactic from Justify My Love to American Life album. Clean hard reset for Confessions. as for the era. Let Down Your Guard, Your Honesty, Freedom and Love Wont Wait are pretty basic tbh I'm glad they were left on the shelf. but yeah I really love this era and album I find it constantly fascinating what was going on behind the scenes and in her head. It feels very mysterious to me.

and Turn Up The Radio is a ghastly 5:13. If ever a single song in her discography needed a quick punk 3:30 edit and video it was that one. She's so wooden and forced and it just didn't come off as wild and fun as she wanted. Directors fault no doubt. It needed fast edits and energy and high camp. It looks like a rehearsal for camera angles.

Some great ideas but they weren't very well realised. GMAYL is her best and most ambitious video since the 90's. Hung Up (was pretty basic but well executed). Bitch I'm Madonna is a vibrant hoot but the features were shoehorned for dear life which really let it down. Notable moments. Forgive Me - Girl Gone WIld Closing moments of Batuka Concept of Dark Ballet Toe Lick - Medellin Cute: Crave , Ghosttown, God Control Too try hard: Medellin / Living For Love Dud: Turn Up The Radio It's been a mixed bag like most decades but I think the concepts for the last 15 years have mostly been too simple or too convoluted, not a lot of fun and miss the iconic nature of her Warner years. . Other artists have annihilated her in terms of video for a long time and that didn't need to be the case at all.

My entire response stream was based on this comment that you cannot in any way proportionally quantify just from internet troll comments. Why the hell would I go to lengths to make excuses for anyone anti black let alone Madonna fans. Really? Don’t do that. I’m am also not responsible for any actions or reactions of other forum members. I speak alone. If you want talk more we can continue privately. I don’t get into internet spats. peace x

I ache when I give a lot of head too henny.

Hey. I hear some of your points but I also think you veer into making some points that don't add up 100% The Starrah thing yes I do remember that actually now you mention it. The Timbo Pharrell thing was largley because that moment musically had passed and was on the backfoot. Everybody loved Loose , Love Angel Music Baby & Future / Love/ Sex / Sounds no? and werent fans clammoring for Beat Goes On with Kanye to be a single big time as well as Timbalands classic sound of Devil Wouldn't Recognise you? Wasn't It Spanish Lesson, Incredible and Voices that were getting all the hate? Bedtime Stories is widely recognised as a fan favourite album that performed badly at the time because she was in a career lull. Many fans refer to the weakest track being the poppiest one. "Don't Stop". The same with Erotica. Waiting is an album highlight and although it's just an aside / bonus / remix etc "Did You Do It" is essentially giving the misogynistic male perspective which beautifully give another depth to her message. I also think Nikki Minaj got a lot of flack because she's hella problematic and featured on not one but three of Madonnas songs across two successive projects. Who else has had that? It was a case of ugh not again etc. GMAYL was not loved but Bitch was divisive more because of the Diplo / Sophie production, Nikki is fire on it IMO. Nas / Chance were also fire on the album as were Swae and Quavo on X. and for the record I think the Britney & Justin collabs are some of the worst of her career and I've never heard much to the contrary tbh, and the DUA remix was bloody slated by most including the Dua fans who thought it was an abomination and the Blessed Madonna got hate mail. Let's not rewrite that one. "There is a major difference between unapologetically black music (rap, hiphop, trap, r&b) and black music that is easily accessible by white people and often has its black history erased (motown, house, disco, poppy r&b) which happen to be the projects that anti-black Madonna fans tolerate the best." I mean...I don't wholly disagree tbh but we are coming from a pop / rock / dance background. Isn't "unapologetically black" problematic to the black community itself? What's black enough? Disco is queer / black / latinx protest music as much as hip-hop...just as hip-hop will often veer into party, drink, dance, get wild music. As is Jazz and Rock N Roll. I'm not blind to what you are saying and maybe Madonnas wanted these type of collaborations her whole career but Warner were just not into it. and yes anti-black Madonna fans do exist of course they do, I don't think anyone is denying that and it's correct to be mindful / aware of it. I just think there's more damage and ill feeling created on all sides when we specifically broad brushstroke over musical tastes with racism. Specifically when it's a fan base bought up on pop music by an artist we all know and love to be highly influenced by other cultures. Just some thoughts x

SOD (bitch I’m douched remix) incoming … or outgoing … I’m not sure

You can’t really get any bigger than Dua Lipa right now and that didn’t pan out brilliantly tbh. Levitating was the biggest song in the states last year but da baby is more to do with that tbh.

Hmmm I disagree that most fans only want Madonna to work with white people. Nile Rogers, Stephen Bray, Pharell, Timbaland, Dallas Austin, Babyface, Starrah, Kanye, Missy, Lenny Kravitz are all people of colour who have produced lots of work for her over the decades. I've never really heard anyone calling out her work with these musicians before. I think the issue a certain portion of the fanbase has is Madonnas style has repeatedly emulated a very specific, dated and repetitive style of music that is based around loops, autotune, mumbling and features where M sounds like she's a guest on her own record. One of the most basic and boring incarnations of Hop-Hop ever in terms of sounds, emotion, clarity. It feels more like dress up than any of her former images which she's moved on pretty quickly from. There are so many other forms of alt rnb that I would die to see Madonna veer into. It's specifically modern hip-hop that just doesn't fit her very well as a woman in her 60's tbh. Plenty of RNB Hip Hop vibes throughout her work from 1990-1994 and that's some of Madonnas most beloved work. She just seems more infatuated with it in the last decade than she really ever has before. It's borders on culture vulture despite her worldly views. I think it's too easy to just broad stroke it as colour based racism even if when the language used by certain fans veers into racist tropes. Does that makes sense? It's more about Madonna not the artists she's working with which sometimes feel cynical and opportunistic which in itself is problematic.