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Turuncan

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  1. ‘Holiday’ - The first hit ‘Like a Virgin’ - The first controversial song & the first US #1 ‘Material Girl’ - The nickname ‘Into the Groove’ - The first UK #1 ‘Live to Tell’ - The first single off her more mature era ‘La Isla Bonita’ - One of her most signature songs ‘Like a Prayer’ - One of the best songs ever recorded & one of the most controversial videos ‘Express Yourself’ - The ultimate “girl power†song ‘Vogue’ - Again one of the most signature songs, so iconic ‘Justify My Love’ - The beginning of the “sex†era ‘Rain’ - My favorite 😛😛 ‘Take a Bow’ - Her biggest ballad in the US ‘Frozen’ - The herald of the “new†Madonna and again one of the best songs ever recorded ‘Music’ - One of her biggest singles, the single that made her one of the few artists who scored #1 singles in three decades in a row in the US, her latest US #1 single ‘American Life’ - One of her most controversial singles ‘Hung Up’ - Her most successful single and the manifestation of her comeback ‘4 Minutes’ - Her latest UK #1 single ‘Bitch I’m Madonna’ - The shittiest single ever
  2. 1. Totally agreed. Many people think the problems in her music career started with “American Lifeâ€, and while I sort of agree, I believe it was rather “Hard Candy†with which she stopped being a trendsetter and became a follower. Up until that point, all her albums were 100 % Madonna; if for example the sound was not her regular style, then the lyrics were. But in 2008 I felt I was losing her on some songs. Then followed “MDNA†and ‘Bitch I’m Madonna’. 🙄 2. Can’t agree with that. While Madonna is quite outspoken, she usually falls superficial and sometimes flat in her messages, especially from mid-90s on. Becoming a mother must surely have made a softening impact on her, but I can’t imagine her giving more than a few messages on a topic and support her claims or ideas further. Besides, just because those female pop stars do not speak their minds about more serious issues we can’t blame them with being socially irresponsible. Firstly, they don’t even have to; they are singers, not politicians or politics commentators. Secondly, many of them have done more than merely speaking. Mariah (always outspoken) has always supported black people and done anything in her power to give them a chance to raise their voices besides tons of her other humanitarian campaigns. P!nk (always outspoken) is an avid environmentalist. Shakira has always supported the Latin youth and their education and always used her fame and fortune to help them. Lady Gaga, Janet Jackson, and Cher (all always outspoken) have rightfully achieved their gay icon statuses because unlike Madonna, they really did something for the LGBTQ people, at least more than just talking or writing/dedicating a few songs to us. Celine Dion tearfully criticized the US government on Larry King’s 2005 show. Even Katy Perry joined an Orlando gay bar attack survivor on Ellen’s show and dedicated her then-latest single to the victims. As much as I hate Adele’s music, I know that she is an avid LGBTQ ally as well. And then there is Dixie Chicks... Many of these women have a philosophy and some particular messages in their careers. While ageism is an undeniable factor, I attribute the absence of Madonna’s post-“GHV2†music on American radios during the 2000s to the fact that the mainstream music in the US during most of the 2000s was R&B/hip-hop that had nothing to do with Madonna’s style up until “Hard Candyâ€. And when she did ‘4 Minutes’, radio quickly grabbed it - though this could be partly owed to Justin Timberlake’s then-popularity as well. Even ‘Hung Up’ was strong on the radio and the charts. She didn’t suffer one tenths of what Janet Jackson has been suffering censorship-wise since 2004. 3. Well, Madonna is not that innocent in this respect, either! The Clear Channel partnership for GMAYL? The free giveaways of the “MDNA†album with the concert tickets? Free download trick of the aforementioned single that failed on the UK Single Chart? Sabotaging Mariah’s opening for the 2006 Grammys even though she had no nominations while Mariah had a lot, including album of the year? If these are the rules of the game, they are for everybody. And I really do not think that she has no media support for her, hence all those positive reviews for “MDNAâ€. I seriously doubt the non-intervention of Clear Channel and Universal Music. 4. Again, agreed. Word by word. She did anything in and maybe even beyond her power to do her best in terms of promotion during the last album’s era. And personally I believe that “Rebel Heart†(minus a few tracks) was her best album in 10 years. Unlike “MDNAâ€, she was dedicated and focused. She tried. And the outcome must relieve her now. This is obviously a new era and she has evidently stood the test of time. Her place in Guinness is safe. So she can just let it go and do the music she really and completely wants with no worries about charts and sales. Shortly, as long as she does the music that really reflects her, my hopes for a new Madonna hit will never die. And if she can’t, that’s still okay. After all, I hardly loathe her music and do not need her chart achievements for enjoying it.
  3. You know what, ironically I find ‘Love Profusion’ the most political song of the album. While the other “political†songs that my dear friend stated criticize the celebrity life, Hollywood glamor and the American dream (while, on the other hand, complimenting it saying “the best thing [she][has] seenâ€), and not really seem sincere in their protest, ‘Love Profusion’ directly talk about solutions, confusion, isolation, options, lack of consolation and comprehension, making it directly social if not subtly political. The song seems to be an ode to love; but essentially love is an escapade from the chaos all these concepts brought on, and therefore not the main subject matter in the song. Considering “American Life†is a mixtape of didactics and personal introspective, this song is the most decisive song on the album because it contains both elements. Hence its place between the protest songs and personal songs.
  4. Same here plus Falling Free. And about MDNA, I still think it is pure unadultered shit.
  5. I don’t think these albums have much in common to be compared to one another other than the artist. One is R&B-soul oriented with even a little bit of jazz touch that could make Sade proud, and its core is romantic and soft. The other one is an electropop-acoustic hybrid with a more protest and introspective subject matter. None of them are regarded as groundbreaking works but rather as bridges between more decisive and memorable albums and eras. Personally “Bedtime Stories†is among my top 5, maybe even 4 favorite Madonna albums whereas I find “American Life†half-baked, poorly produced, weakly-written and I think it fell short of achieving its goal. Still it contains nice songs (I love ‘Nothing Fails’!) and has a more edgy attitude, and I don’t loathe this album as much as I loathe “MDNAâ€.
  6. Didn’t like it. But what’s worse is, I didn’t hate it either. I am afraid she is not only cheapening her name with such unaesthetic poses and moves, but she is also tarnishing her fame by looking so desperate for attention, all leading to some kind of indifference, something I doubt she will ever want. Madonna is losing that shock value rapidly, and all those momentary antics are just erasing her image of once creating controversies for giving a message and expressing herself against the status quo. I don’t like her looking like a mentally unstable person whose actions nobody cares about.
  7. Results are going to be given later, and that’s the hardest part! I went with “Ray of Light†of course.
  8. Wanted to share with you. http://www.albumism.com/polls/what-is-your-favorite-madonna-album#.Wmnl8ZeIdDQ.facebook
  9. None of the videos is among my favorites, so I chose the song I loved the most, this being ‘Live to Tell’.
  10. ‘Express Yourself’ all the way!
  11. Interesting to see this while eating my Domino’s.
  12. Word by word. Nowadays Ilisten to 'Ghosttown' a little bit more as I really love "Rebel Heart".
  13. You definitely aren't. I also love that remix over both 1984 and 1995 album versions.
  14. In order to avoid from repeating 'Don't Tell Me' twice, I will include 'Paradise (Not for Me)' interlude on the list as well. Drowned World/Substitute for Love vs. Future Lovers/I Feel Love Impressive Instant vs. Get Together Candy Perfume Girl vs. Like a Virgin Beautiful Stranger vs. Jump Ray of Light vs. Live to Tell Paradise (Not for Me) vs. Forbidden Love Frozen vs. Isaac Nobody's Perfect vs. Sorry Mer Girl/Sky Fits Heaven vs. Like It or Not I Deserve It vs. I Love New York Don't Tell Me vs. Ray of Light Human Nature vs. Let It Will Be The Funny Song vs. Drowned World/Substitute for Love Secret vs. Paradise (Not for Me) Gone vs. Music Inferno Lo Que Siente La Mujer vs. Erotica/You Thrill Me La Isla Bonita vs. La Isla Bonita (surprise!) Holiday vs. Lucky Star Music vs. Hung Up Drowned World Tour: 12 Confessions Tour: 7
  15. I played the confessions interlude & 'Live to Tell' performance to my 9th/10th/11th grade students and they usually disliked it.
  16. Would you all shoot me if I said I never listened to the demos?
  17. 'Messiah' It's one of the best love ballads of her whole career. Too bad it was only included on the deluxe edition.
  18. I still don't get where that photo on Spotify is. )
  19. There will always be younger fans to discover, enjoy, like her etc. but her core fanbase is usually 25+ people. When I asked my young students if they know Madonna, many of them said they didn't. Those who have heard of her probably don't know what she sings or what she's like. As the age group grows, her popularity rises too.
  20. I also wish 'The Look of Love' had received full-single treatment.
  21. My first Madonna album was "Ray of Light", I bought it after listening to and falling in love with 'Frozen'. Then the rest followed.
  22. @@blondebombshell You are such a strong and brave person!
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