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thanks @Bel and @discohub.
I totally agree with @Sonny. I think Beyoncé is the product of a huge, huge, huge marketing campaing, like she was somehow IMPOSED on us. Everywhere you look, there is Beyoncé: any magazine cover, TV, humanitarian causes, awards, gets named in films for no reason, gets flourishing reviews in ROCK magazines, you name it. She received a COUNTRY MUSIC award once! This I remember very well. She's everywhere at the same time. Her public image is more powerful than her music which is played nowhere as far as I know. It's odd: she never gets bad press, she's sooooo good, sooooo talented. Don't you find it strange? What I think, and again I don't want to offend anyone, is that there's a enormous power machine pushing her, imposing her, installing the idea in the media and in the public minds that she's the best thing ever. And that Power Machine is engineered by, of course, the illuminati sect she belongs to, which in turn serves sionism. She and her husbands are the leaders. West and Rihanna are below them. It's a sinister satanist hierchachy  that rules the music industry today, and whatever or whoever is against them... they're over. Everybody is so fucking scared of them. They suck new artists into the sect and their change is notorious. The before and after is so obvious. After watching her new video, I can see Ariana Grande is their new member. What about Katty Perry's Grammys black mass? And the "Stairway to hell" horn hats at another Grammy ceremony? I can go on forever. Madonna was clever enough to sign to Tidal because she knows where the power is, and she was always tactful when mentioning Beyoncé. But I don't think she's with them at all. In order to survive in the business she must do some capitulations, so she flirts with this dark imagery to a certain extent. She's too clever.
If you know a little about semiology, history and art, and, well, the occult, you will find countless references to satanism or luciferianism for that matter, in her videos, photoshoots, etc.  It's so creepy. I'm so close to God, or "Light" that whenever I watch a video from these people I get sick, I have a physical reaction to them. It's too bad teens ignore all this and they're constantly dragged into this obscurity. You can laugh if you want but this is what I see. Awareness is all we have. And if you doubt, look into Beyonce's eyes. You'll see real evil.
@Discohub, I respect you point. But you have to go beyond the racial, gender and sex issues (which, believe me, exist in the US only because in Europe those differences are unthinkable, unimaginable). And therein lies the great paradox: A destructive message hides behind all these political correctness, like in a Trojan horse. Were Beyoncé and her husband WASP, or gay or whatever, I would still think the same. This is NOT about gender, race or sexual identity. 

You are right. I hate it when they say "a come back" referring to someone that never left. To them, to be back means to be back on the charts. Sales. 

You are right. I hate it when they say "a come back" referring to someone that never left. To them, to be back means to be back on the charts. Sales. 

thanks @Bel and @discohub.
I totally agree with @Sonny. I think Beyoncé is the product of a huge, huge, huge marketing campaing, like she was somehow IMPOSED on us. Everywhere you look, there is Beyoncé: any magazine cover, TV, humanitarian causes, awards, gets named in films for no reason, gets flourishing reviews in ROCK magazines, you name it. She received a COUNTRY MUSIC award once! This I remember very well. She's everywhere at the same time. Her public image is more powerful than her music which is played nowhere as far as I know. It's odd: she never gets bad press, she's sooooo good, sooooo talented. Don't you find it strange? What I think, and again I don't want to offend anyone, is that there's a enormous power machine pushing her, imposing her, installing the idea in the media and in the public minds that she's the best thing ever. And that Power Machine is engineered by, of course, the illuminati sect she belongs to, which in turn serves sionism. She and her husbands are the leaders. West and Rihanna are below them. It's a sinister satanist hierchachy  that rules the music industry today, and whatever or whoever is against them... they're over. Everybody is so fucking scared of them. They suck new artists into the sect and their change is notorious. The before and after is so obvious. After watching her new video, I can see Ariana Grande is their new member. What about Katty Perry's Grammys black mass? And the "Stairway to hell" horn hats at another Grammy ceremony? I can go on forever. Madonna was clever enough to sign to Tidal because she knows where the power is, and she was always tactful when mentioning Beyoncé. But I don't think she's with them at all. In order to survive in the business she must do some capitulations, so she flirts with this dark imagery to a certain extent. She's too clever.
If you know a little about semiology, history and art, and, well, the occult, you will find countless references to satanism or luciferianism for that matter, in her videos, photoshoots, etc.  It's so creepy. I'm so close to God, or "Light" that whenever I watch a video from these people I get sick, I have a physical reaction to them. It's too bad teens ignore all this and they're constantly dragged into this obscurity. You can laugh if you want but this is what I see. Awareness is all we have. And if you doubt, look into Beyonce's eyes. You'll see real evil.
@Discohub, I respect you point. But you have to go beyond the racial, gender and sex issues (which, believe me, exist in the US only because in Europe those differences are unthinkable, unimaginable). And therein lies the great paradox: A destructive message hides behind all these political correctness, like in a Trojan horse. Were Beyoncé and her husband WASP, or gay or whatever, I would still think the same. This is NOT about gender, race or sexual identity. 

That's why Italy is one of the greatest countries in the world! @@Enrico

"So, happy birthday to Madonna. She’s sung, danced, acted, yapped, provoked, riled, worked her butt off, kept a sense of humour and taken all the sexist slurs with her head held high. Here’s to an artist who can’t come back because she never went away."
AMEN!

I used to like Y&Y when they came out

I don't have a setlist, but I'd defo like to hear Angel, Rescue me, This used to be my playground, Bad girl, I'll remember, The power of good-bye and American pie

It is a studio album.  

Yeah, it's great. And "Production" too. 

If Mirwaïs' involved it will be a banger. He's a genius. And a very nice and polite man. I remember how he would answear my questions on Facebook about a new album of his back in 2011... a project that never came to pass. Previously in 2009 he had released an arab-flavoured album with Lebanese singer Yas (Yasmine Hamdan) which was really, really good and I highly recommend.

If Mirwaïs' involved it will be a banger. He's a genius. And a very nice and polite man. I remember how he would answear my questions on Facebook about a new album of his back in 2011... a project that never came to pass. Previously in 2009 he had released an arab-flavoured album with Lebanese singer Yas (Yasmine Hamdan) which was really, really good and I highly recommend.

Lana's version is superb in every way.

@@Liam I can assure you she did something to her lips, the skin is tighter and fuller. Or maybe it's the grillz. I hate grillz, they're look gross in anybody. Her tit looks fine though

Express yourself, but the album version

I think BS is underrated and no one seems to be very fond of it. I love it. It's my all-time fave: lush, sultry, good taste to the hilt. Imo she should have gone further into the trip hop sound. Nevertheless it's an amazingly cohesive album. Poor BS, no one loves it.
AL... I never liked it. It tries too hard to attempt grandeur and pomposity to the point of sounding pretentious. IMO of course

Express yourself, but the album version

I totally agree with you. AL is to politicts what Oprah Winfrey is to intellectuality. I don't think the title track could be considered "political", nor "Hollywood", nor  "I'm so stupid". She's just mildly judging the star-system from within, while continuing to be a part of it. Apart from those 3 tracks the rest of the album is romance and love-oriented. The guitars are awesome but a bit cold, the vocals are very good. I think AL and RH are her darkest albums, lyrics and melodies.

OK @@Liam, but straight men have rarely used sex in their careers, let alone posing naked. Come on. Women have an exhibitionist and flamboyant side which is shared with gay/bi men IMO. No offense
 
As for Me too and all that, I think it's out of control, and it's ruining a lot of men's lives who cannot defend themselves. It's very hard to prove abuse and harrassment in court. I think  it's causing more damage than benefits. Everybody gets defensive, men are paranoid, lawyers are happy, the media even more, etc. Flirting and coutship and seduction are in danger. We men are now fearful of women, which is crazy mate, crazy. Thank God the kind of women I attract are never feminists and the women I'm attracted to are never feminists. LOL

Definitely I want a rock album a lots of guitars. Great melodies and anthemic choruses. Danger Mouse would be a great producer or Jamie xx

Definitely I want a rock album a lots of guitars. Great melodies and anthemic choruses. Danger Mouse would be a great producer or Jamie xx

Lol. @@Enrico, who are "normal people"? Hahaha. But you're wrong about something: I learned about the pic in the press (online) and that led me to the forum and there it was. So a great deal of the press does pay attention to what she does. No matter the reason, M still makes headlines

1) You're wrong mate. I never  judged her for flashing her naked boob. I just said that with and the surgery she becomes the embodiement of the things she fights against. I was defending her. But I got distorted.
 
2) Anyway, I'd like to ask the gay men from 20 to 30 if they'd had sex with a 60 year-old guy, and I'm talking about a man that doesn't go to the gym, a regular guy.
 
3) I think I'm going to show my dick and balls anytime soon. I too wanna fight against ageism (I've just turned 43) and if you don't publish it I'll denounce the forum as sexist towards str8 people. LOL. I mean it.

Finally i'll have to accept that the 1985, 1990-1992 Madonna is gone forever. Somehow, unconsciously, I was always waiting her to come back. Admit it: this happens to all of you