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Hi, what are your THREE least favorite or Least played Madonna albums?
Here's mine:
Hard Candy (From the three, I like this one the most)
Erotica (I remember cringing when I first heard it, but, it grew on me with time)
Bedtime Stories (I remember crying when I first heard it. I was so disappointed. There are a few songs I really like but, for the most part, I still don't like it much. In fact, it's my least favorite from the three)

It's very subtle but I actually kinda like it.

Oh Father and Bad Girl, both. They were too ahead of their time, too honest, too dark. People in the 80s and early 90s weren't ready to talk about such serious things, as they had just left the more politically-oriented 60s/70s behind.

The writer of the article has to be a professional chef because their taste is so good

Thank god she didn't. His production work is probably the worst thing that happened to music....it's even worst than MDNA. Nothing can beat redone in awfulness. If it wasn't for DJWS to redeem it, Gaga's discography would be the worst ever. I wonder if Madonna approached him personally or if it was Universal because for MDNA and Rebel Heart they approached a lot of people without Madonna's knowledge, Marina (and the diamonds) talked about it and turned the proposition down when she discovered M wasn't involved.
 
 

What's not already digitalized by them is probably lost. They need to hire fans as interns to help them. 

Maybe they are planning to release the full Re-Invention Tour Live Album now! 

Exactly. And I can bet you her ENTIRE FORTUNE that absolutely nothing like that has crossed her mind. Ever.

I still think her team should be taking advantage of her fans being at home bored and give us a load of unreleased stuff now ? 

Maybe they are planning to release the full Re-Invention Tour Live Album now! 

Maybe they are planning to release the full Re-Invention Tour Live Album now! 

Maybe they are planning to release the full Re-Invention Tour Live Album now! 

Maybe they are planning to release the full Re-Invention Tour Live Album now! 

Maybe they are planning to release the full Re-Invention Tour Live Album now! 

Maybe they are planning to release the full Re-Invention Tour Live Album now! 

Thank you! I'm loving this! Bring it on!! 

I'd remove: Crave, I Don't Search I Find, Masterpiece, Celebration & Jump
Everybody / Music (Mashup / Medley) Lucky Star / Impressive Instant (Mashup / Medley) Like a Virgin Material Girl / Hollywood (Mashup / Medley) Into the Groove Papa Don't Preach / Die Another Day (Mashup / Medley) Open Your Heart La Isla Bonita / Who's That Girl (Alternatively) Like a Prayer Express Yourself Vogue Rescue Me / Living for Love (Mashup / Medley) Erotica / Justify My Love (Mashup / Medley) Deeper and Deeper Secret / Bad Girl (Alternatively) Take a Bow / You'll See / I'll Remember / Crazy for You (Alternatively) Frozen Ray of Light Nothing Really Matters Don't Tell Me Hung Up Sorry 4 Minutes Girl Gone Wild Live to Tell / Ghosttown (Alternatively)

Let's sit down guys cause this is going to take a while and i'm about to vent a bit:
I was just watching Oprah's 1998 interview and then the Live Earth performance from 2007 for the first time in years...and i was thinking about how she looked like a completely different person back then. Not just physically, but her attitude as well.
I also realized...it was the last time we saw old school Madonna on stage with no major cosmetic surgery and before the drama hit her marriage, before Hard Candy, before S&S tour and before she was considered to be "following trends instead of creating them" as people say. She was just...so cool and confident on that stage! Amazing vocals, dancing 100% of the time, choreo on point. That's who i fell in love with.
A lot is said about how Guy Oseary taking over changed things...and even though i agree, it's also okay to point out how this was the point Madonna as a person changed, right? Am i alone in this?
What do you guys think happened at the end of that marriage that shaped Madonna to being the person she is right now? She literally went from being an english housewife that writes children books and has a british accent to excessive plastic surgery, dating boytoys, an overall less secure person than before to the point she's not even comfortable on letting her ego share a talk show with other people. I mean...her Graham Norton show appearances even from 2012 to 2019 are night and day honestly.
Career wise she always progressed in terms of ideas and you could feel an artistic evolution from her first album until American Life. Re-Invention Tour and the Confessions era was her "damage control" phase and worked for her. Why? She knew she had to deliver. Thinking only about herself and her artistic growth wouldn't get her anywhere and this IS a business after all. She was still modern, but doing 70's inspired disco music and that attracted multiple generations but everyone thought she was the coolest. i remember it so well. It was also the first Madonna era i was a fan of hers. My parents loved her, i was almost 18 and loved her. My cousins weren't even 10 and loved her.
How did we go from this to wearing grillz, dating boy toys, that Drake kiss, Bitch I'm Madonna phase, whatever she did at that VMA award where she told that Aretha Franklin story that went nowhere while dressed like...that. Going completely unprepared to Eurovision. How bad her vocal preparation was for that and even the BB Awards performances, and most of all...how unprofessional she became?
She was going through hell during S&S in 2008 and somehow she always kept it professional. Yes she could start a show like half an hour after its initial time...but nothing major.
How did we go from that stadium tour to  a theater tour that couldn't be worse organized, from that lottery program, to delayed shows at the start of the tour, then each city, then cancellations 3 hours before showtime, to Madonna saying she's being censored by the UK's curfew? Like...she's been performing there since the 80's. She always did her shows because she showed up on time. How can she not realize all this?
I always loved her, and i think i always will...but Madonna since Eurovision has been even harder to be...likable, even as a diehard fan. Never in a million years i ever expected Madonna to perform to an audience of over 200 million people completely unprepared like that. 
Is she really living in such a bubble that she doesn't realize everything bad she's doing to her career?
Has she been told so many times how great she is, she actually started to believe she was? She was always great at this business because she knew her strengths and lows...which right now...she doesn't. Speaking of which...i won't even mention the fact she went on doing a stadium tour in 2012 with basically album tracks (and hits completely changed from their original versions) from an album that didn't sell 2 million copies. Just 4 years before, she did a stadium tour and of course...she did hits. You NEED to know your audience. Somehow...she doesn't anymore. 
And yes she was always bitchy, sometimes cocky, always had a dry and sarcastic sense of humor, that's still there to this day. But she was always a pro. A hard working pro. And we could always count on her to deliver and she was always the best at doing that. 
Now she can still be...after waiting for hours...in venues with no AC on, after we stressed for months over lottery programs, canceled shows, reschedules, etc.
We also started to witness her victimizing herself more and more. Yes ageism exists...but you can't blame everything on sexism, ageism, etc. Look how she handled the SEX era. Watch those interviews from back then. She outsmarted everyone by being witty and confident. Now she cries on instagram. What happened?
What do you guys think about all this? And please, if you're pretending "this is the same madonna as always"...let's not fool ourselves. She's a totally different person and it's okay to admit. I love her and will always. That's why this is a bit hard to witness. Even harder to see her vocals being so amazing right now. Where was all that before Eurovision? Madame X album recordings (it's clear she had no vocal training before doing this record), etc?
Do you think all we need is a better team?
What's next for her? What do you still expect from Madonna?

Right? We even got the Gambler instrumental...but not this gem.

in no order...
Burning Up / Physical Attraction
Angel
Open Your Heart
Like a Prayer
Oh Father

in no order...
Burning Up / Physical Attraction
Angel
Open Your Heart
Like a Prayer
Oh Father

Before the digital age made physical singles a thing of the past, it was a joy and pleasure as a Madonna fan finding singles at the CD section of a store, in second hand shops, listening to the remixes of the accompanying single, the artwork and B-Sides and excluded tracks used as bonuses. I know the fanbase has its world of collectors who are knowledgeable in the different versions, editions with different artwork and rare versions of tracks released. What are some of your favorites and some your own?  Tried to create a different type of thread from "If Madonna did this, what would you change" threads? Feel free to post your own stories of your collection and pics if you'd like.

For me, it was always the Express Yourself run up until Rain singles that seemed to stick out to me. Seeing the brunette Madonna on Express Yourself single art, the inclusion of Supernatural on Cherish, the different mixes to Justify My Love and others. Not to mention how despite some being video shots of previous works managed to make it look iconic. See "Vogue" using an "Express Yourself" photo. I remember buying the Erotica maxi single and getting a huge poster of Madonna from a Meisel shoot included with it.

They'll be added sooner or later! I guess hadn't she abandoned Warner in 2009 we would have got them online ages ago. The half-assed Like a Prayer Anniversary which happened to include old remixes was surprising though.