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    deathproof reacted to RUADJAI in Redone: Madonna asked me to work with her and then changed her mind   
    I mean... I'll only answer if it's not ripped apart in a negative way. Saying I'm reaching or whatever. Im a fan of both, and I personally think they both influenced each other in different ways. 
    I think the very first inspiration was the dress she wore in the Celebration video. 

     
     
    Having that boys in heels dance group in the GGW video was definitely inspired by Gaga's Alejandro video.  Which yes was directly inspired by Vogue and X-Static Process photoshoot. 
     
    I think Gaga's overt expression of her love for "the gays" inspired a bunch of stuff. Before the MDNA tour gayness wasn't really a thing on a Madonna tour since 1993, if I'm remembering correctly. Then in MDNA she has dudes in heels. She has cross dressers in Vogue. and Nobody Knows Me backdrop for all the gay kids who ended their own lives. (Please don't take this as I don't think Madonna cares about this issue, I think he does...but I believe she supported gay rights subtly for a long time until (I Believe) Gaga came along shouting it from the rooftops. Hell even one of her arguably gayest songs EVER, Hung Up, didn't have anything gay in it. 
     
    The line in Superstar... "Im your biggest fan its true"
    Gaga Paparazzi..."I'm your biggest fan I'll follow you until you love me"
     
    I think generally the idea of "transgression" in MDNA and the accompanying tour came from Gaga. I think it was too obvious for Madonna to adopt her musical style, so she adopted the dangerousness of Gaga. One example of this would be the violence, but also the references to drugs which Madonna had NEVER done before. The only thing close was a Sasha remix title of Drowned World if Im not mistaking.MDNA was the first time Madonna seemed to "play" with the idea of condoning drug use. Obviously we know she doesn't condone drugs. If you're wondering what Im talking of specifically... I'm Addicted... the whole song is comparing someone to a drug... chanting MDNA at the end which only sounds like MDMA considering the song topic... and the fact earlier in the song she says "like MDMA, and that's OK".  Asking people if they seen Molly at that Avicci concert. 
    Inspiration doesn't have to be copycat. I think Give Me All Your Luvin is basically a love letter to Gaga. At least the first verse/prechorus.  
    "I see u coming and I don't wanna know your name".      (Gaga seems to say her name in every song at this point.)
    "I see u coming and ur gonna have to change your game".    (Her game is copying Madonna and other artists.)
     
    I think Madonna was inspired by Gaga's declaration of her love of ART. We all know Madonna collects art and has ties to Basquiat and Keith Haring but she didn't mention them for 25 years until Gaga was running around dressed like a Picasso. 
    Madonna's  Revolution of Love is oddly similar to Gaga's Manifesto of Mother Monster and the Born this Way album in general. Saying a race within the race of humanity was born without prejudice. blah blah blah ...  Singing of driving on the Road to Love on Highway Unicorn.
    The almost pandering to the underdog or outcast. Madonna has always inspired by "being" who she is. Defiant and strong. Yes, in Express Yourself she is telling someone to think better of themselves, but for the most part Madonna has always led by example. Over and Over... I get up again. It's always been Madonna telling her own story (for the most part). Then after Born this Way, Madonna adapts this type of songwriting TO the listener that Gaga did so well on BTW. The songs also insinuate that the listener is broken in some way. 
    Again in the Living for Love intro... she's speaking to the listener ... "someone unique, rare, and fearless". 
    blah blah blah "perfectly content of who you are" (the implication is that you are NOT)
    Iconic... "If you try and fail get up again, destiny will choose you in the end..."
    "just shine your light like a beautiful star, show the world who you are" (the implication is that you are not doing these things)
     
    They may seem like trivial examples at first glance, but I can't really remember a time that Madonna ever did this in song. The closest we have is Beat Goes On, but I think this is different as it seems like she's singing to Lola. (to me)
    Fishnets, satin sheets
    Garter belt, Raw meat
     
    I could go on a bit more... but this is long enough. 
     
    Put your paws up

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    deathproof reacted to dankpepe in Redone: Madonna asked me to work with her and then changed her mind   
    Gaga copied Madonna a lot with too many instances to list (Just Dance = Hung Up, Alejandro = Vogue, etc) but it's kind of funny considering how many people Madonna has copied over the years. I think when someone wants to put it nicely they'll say "paying homage" to that person 
    The only time I thought Madonna was trying to copy the weirdness of Gaga is when she dressed like this:

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    deathproof got a reaction from madgefan in Madame X Tour DVD   
    You must be new here lol
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    deathproof got a reaction from Voguerista in Redone: Madonna asked me to work with her and then changed her mind   
    Interesting. So she hit up both RedOne and Fernando Garibay.
    Maybe for Celebration?
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    deathproof got a reaction from Voguerista in Madame X Tour DVD   
    No one said “dance demo,” and if you are referring to the May 15th demo, the first leaked one, I’d hardly classify that as “dance.
     
    And as it still stands, all versions were done by Avicii, and not everyone has the same preferences as you. Some people prefer the July new vox, others enjoy the March acoustic demo.
    Really don’t understand the hostility and rudeness, this was all a friendly discussion...
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    deathproof got a reaction from Voguerista in Madame X Tour DVD   
    I would assume that work on this dvd is indefinitely on-hold because of the current situation with COVID-19. Unless M is paying whoever to work overtime on this (fingers crossed!)
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    deathproof got a reaction from NothingReallyMatters in Stuart Price, 15 years ago this week   
    And maybe that time will come in the near future. Maybe Dua Lipa will inspire her!
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    deathproof got a reaction from NothingReallyMatters in Stuart Price, 15 years ago this week   
    Uh, she started working with Stuart in 2001 (DWT). Worked with him on American Life (they did X Static Process together, but ended up reworking it with Mirwais). Asked to remaster all prior studio albums for a 20th anniv box set. Hired for RIT. Then did work on Confessions.
    So they had a very lengthy relationship together...
    But that’s besides the point, and not what I was getting at. How was Stuart “dropped,” when the same can be applied for almost all of her producers. She’s never really worked with someone consecutively, with maybe the exception of Monte. 
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    deathproof got a reaction from MarXus in I'm Going To Tell You A Secret....   
    Oh it’s so easy! And plays everything without any hassle. On my phone I have everything from Apple Music, and stuff from my personal collection and like live concerts, remixes, and unreleased stuff, all playing from 1 app! It’s fantastic!
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    deathproof got a reaction from Voguerista in I'm Going To Tell You A Secret....   
    American Life, Lament, Like a Prayer, Mother and Father, Imagine, Into The Groove, Music, and Holiday were not backing tracks. That’s 8 of 13 live tracks. I’d hardly call that “most.”
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    deathproof reacted to madgefan in I'm Going To Tell You A Secret....   
    I think he's traying to say that at least it's the one 'less fake' and I couldn't agree more. 

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    deathproof reacted to wtg1987 in I'm Going To Tell You A Secret....   
    Live album ?? Most of it is backing tracks ? has the film streamed in HD ?
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    deathproof got a reaction from madgefan in I'm Going To Tell You A Secret....   
    It’s her best live album to date!
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    deathproof got a reaction from Feer Osorio in I'm Going To Tell You A Secret....   
    It’s her best live album to date!
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    deathproof got a reaction from confessed in I'm Going To Tell You A Secret....   
    That’s why I use Apple Music. Everything I own gets linked up to their stuff, so everything I play of my own still counts toward streaming!
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    deathproof got a reaction from Voguerista in I'm Going To Tell You A Secret....   
    It’s her best live album to date!
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    deathproof got a reaction from Voguerista in I'm Going To Tell You A Secret....   
    When was the film ever available to stream though?
     
    Yeah it is weird they removed the soundtrack... maybe it’s a licensing thing? 
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    deathproof got a reaction from MarXus in Madame X Tour DVD   
    Well, still makes no sense when all versions are Avicii versions lol
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    deathproof got a reaction from MarXus in Madame X Tour DVD   
    ????
    which Avicii version?? They were all produced by Avicii lol
    the tour version is reworked too, by Kevin, sounds like a mix of demos
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    deathproof got a reaction from Angelo in Apocalypse World Tour   
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    deathproof got a reaction from boytoy77 in Madame X Tour DVD   
    HBO broadcast of DWT is like this too.
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    deathproof got a reaction from Papa Zelko in Madame X Tour DVD   
    HBO broadcast of DWT is like this too.
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    deathproof got a reaction from RebelHeartbreak in Madame X Tour DVD   
    It wasn’t cancelled cause she got fired. It got cancelled because of the low sales of American Life. She tried to make up for it by putting out Remixed and Revisited, and that Icon NKM book.
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    deathproof reacted to RUADJAI in Madame X Tour DVD   
    With as much as she interacts with her BF in the show, I think the full working title will be 
     
    Madame X Theatre featuring Ahlamalik Williams
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    deathproof reacted to EgoRod in Madonna myths, stories and more   
    I remember being in Asbury Park years ago, not far from Shep Pettibone's club Paradise. And someone telling me that Madonna's song ('Paradise') was a reference to the club and their relationship ending in no great terms. The whole thing never really add up to me.
    What stories you heard or you actually know as facts connected to Madonna songs that are not commonly known?
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