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I looked everywhere for Madonna in this video but I couldn’t see her

What an amazing journey! Thank you for sharing.

Yesterday I asked a friend of mine who works as a cameraman for live TV shows in Germany how much delay is typical in live broadcasts. He responded that in television shows (talk shows), it can be a few seconds, in sports events up to 30 seconds, and in concerts 10 seconds to a minute, at least in the only three occasions he has worked on concerts. Occasionally, there might be a two-minute delay for specific needs, but he has never experienced a delay of 10 minutes. He mentioned that in such cases, they simply record and broadcast it later, hours or days afterward.
 
I also read on Instagram that the 12-minute delay was a specific request made by Madonna's team to Globo, not a common request.
Indeed, Madonna's team wanted to make various changes, including the choice of shots. If you notice, during "In This Life," it's all dark, but a couple of men kissing is shown, clearly footage from an earlier moment in the show (as confirmed by the guys themselves). I saw a post about it. It was decided that at that moment they would show a scene of a gay kiss, precisely because it was meant to add meaning to the performance. Madonna's team, in addition to synchronizing various audio tracks to make changes to the audio, had to do editing by choosing the right shots, not just selecting which cameras to show live.
The choice made for "In This Life/Live to Tell" is beautiful, and I'm glad they used this delay to work on a nice edit of the footage. Although, if I were to be overly critical, I might have preferred a more intimate kiss. But probably, it was the only one the cameramen captured from the beginning of the show.
 
Anyway, we're so happy about her glory and about her show. It's just that here we're on her fan forum, we already said we loved everything, now we're talking about something which made us sad.
But we're still happy about the show!
I'm just sorry for Madonna's image, really. In the mainstream audience, she already doesn't have a reputation for being someone who can sing or someone who sings live, and with such glaring errors, you'd almost think they did it on purpose or didn't have enough time to do such work decently.

Yes, such an "erotic" kiss at a moment like that is almost cringe, at first sight it looked cringe to me too. I mean, in Madonna's narrative, all the dancers have just died; it's not exactly the time you'd expect two guys to be kissing like that. I would have expected a more intimate kiss, maybe just a peck. Madonna wanted to include it as a reference to the population most affected by AIDS, the LGBT community. The idea was good, but the couple chosen was a bit off.
 
Anyway, despite the audio, it's still better than RHT dvd 😆😆😆

I gotta admit, there's a tinge of sadness wrapping up this tour.
The amazing thing is, I got to be there for both the opening night in London and the closing night in Rio. I lived through the start and end of this epic journey, which might just be her last big tour, although I really hope I'm dead wrong 🥺
During the first night in London, I was happy but couldn't fully vibe with the show even though it was a total surprise. It was a rough day for me, and even though I was physically there, all I could see were the flaws.
Realizing I needed to give it another shot, I decided to catch the show again, in Lisbon. Then, being in Italy at the end of November (I'm Italian), I couldn't miss Milan. With each stop, I became less critical and started to enjoy the show more and more.
Up until Milan, I liked the show more, but it hadn't quite stolen my heart. I even thought maybe I'd seen it one too many times. I had never seen a Madonna tour more than twice before.
Then comes the surprise: I hear from my ex who lives in San Francisco, and he tells me he's got an extra ticket for the Celebration Tour in SF and invites me to join him. After some thinking, I managed to find a great deal on flights and decided to go, making it my first visit to the wonderful California. San Francisco swept me off my feet and was a magical place that changed me in some ways.That night, I was on cloud nine before the show.
I wasn't sure how I'd experience the show, given it was the fourth time, but I ended up loving everything way more than before. And this time, I saw Madonna for the first time from the stands, but I was still really close because I was down below. I was moved; I never took out my phone and danced and sang my heart out!
 
Then I did something insane: I hopped on a flight to Rio, where I still am now, working remotely from here and keeping European hours (crazy), barely getting any sleep. I'm loving Rio, like mad. The people are fantastic.
 
But seeing this show in Copacabana was an absolutely mind-blowing way to wrap up my journey with Madonna. I cried, I was moved, I felt connected to everyone there: ladies in their 50s or 60s singing their hearts out, members of the Brazilian LGBTQ community, people of all sorts, but all united by a unique joy. And by the energy Madonna gave us, giving it her all in this show in front of 1.6 million people, with the sea right there, in an even more magical atmosphere than in stadiums, where I think Madonna has always delivered much more than in closed spaces. It's the same show, but I had a completely different experience from the others; it was incredible ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
And even now, I still feel a bit there in Copacabana, I haven't fully recovered from that emotional storm.
Sorry if I'm going on about the sound of the official recordings and especially the out-of-sync audience, but you can't imagine what I experienced in Copacabana, you have no idea what the crowd was like there. We all danced while watching her sing and move on stage, we were all part of the performance too. This needs to be remembered.
So I'm watching many times the TV recording searching for the emotions I lived through, but I can't find them completely. Sure, the recordings are incredible, but there are elements that make me think "the real show was something else". The thing I hate the most is that at some points, you can't hear the audience even though we were all singing along, the audience gets cut out almost abruptly. And the second thing I hate so much is hearing the audience out of sync (and seeing Madonna out of sync too, with audio that wasn't from Rio, but they couldn't adapt it in a way that seemed realistic). 🙉👎
The real show sounded almost like in stadiums: I could hear the voices of the entire audience, but I could also hear her live voice. It was incredible. 🌟🎶🌴
 
Sorry for this long message, I hope you all understand 🥺

Yesterday I asked a friend of mine who works as a cameraman for live TV shows in Germany how much delay is typical in live broadcasts. He responded that in television shows (talk shows), it can be a few seconds, in sports events up to 30 seconds, and in concerts 10 seconds to a minute, at least in the only three occasions he has worked on concerts. Occasionally, there might be a two-minute delay for specific needs, but he has never experienced a delay of 10 minutes. He mentioned that in such cases, they simply record and broadcast it later, hours or days afterward.
 
I also read on Instagram that the 12-minute delay was a specific request made by Madonna's team to Globo, not a common request.
Indeed, Madonna's team wanted to make various changes, including the choice of shots. If you notice, during "In This Life," it's all dark, but a couple of men kissing is shown, clearly footage from an earlier moment in the show (as confirmed by the guys themselves). I saw a post about it. It was decided that at that moment they would show a scene of a gay kiss, precisely because it was meant to add meaning to the performance. Madonna's team, in addition to synchronizing various audio tracks to make changes to the audio, had to do editing by choosing the right shots, not just selecting which cameras to show live.
The choice made for "In This Life/Live to Tell" is beautiful, and I'm glad they used this delay to work on a nice edit of the footage. Although, if I were to be overly critical, I might have preferred a more intimate kiss. But probably, it was the only one the cameramen captured from the beginning of the show.
 
Anyway, we're so happy about her glory and about her show. It's just that here we're on her fan forum, we already said we loved everything, now we're talking about something which made us sad.
But we're still happy about the show!
I'm just sorry for Madonna's image, really. In the mainstream audience, she already doesn't have a reputation for being someone who can sing or someone who sings live, and with such glaring errors, you'd almost think they did it on purpose or didn't have enough time to do such work decently.

I gotta admit, there's a tinge of sadness wrapping up this tour.
The amazing thing is, I got to be there for both the opening night in London and the closing night in Rio. I lived through the start and end of this epic journey, which might just be her last big tour, although I really hope I'm dead wrong 🥺
During the first night in London, I was happy but couldn't fully vibe with the show even though it was a total surprise. It was a rough day for me, and even though I was physically there, all I could see were the flaws.
Realizing I needed to give it another shot, I decided to catch the show again, in Lisbon. Then, being in Italy at the end of November (I'm Italian), I couldn't miss Milan. With each stop, I became less critical and started to enjoy the show more and more.
Up until Milan, I liked the show more, but it hadn't quite stolen my heart. I even thought maybe I'd seen it one too many times. I had never seen a Madonna tour more than twice before.
Then comes the surprise: I hear from my ex who lives in San Francisco, and he tells me he's got an extra ticket for the Celebration Tour in SF and invites me to join him. After some thinking, I managed to find a great deal on flights and decided to go, making it my first visit to the wonderful California. San Francisco swept me off my feet and was a magical place that changed me in some ways.That night, I was on cloud nine before the show.
I wasn't sure how I'd experience the show, given it was the fourth time, but I ended up loving everything way more than before. And this time, I saw Madonna for the first time from the stands, but I was still really close because I was down below. I was moved; I never took out my phone and danced and sang my heart out!
 
Then I did something insane: I hopped on a flight to Rio, where I still am now, working remotely from here and keeping European hours (crazy), barely getting any sleep. I'm loving Rio, like mad. The people are fantastic.
 
But seeing this show in Copacabana was an absolutely mind-blowing way to wrap up my journey with Madonna. I cried, I was moved, I felt connected to everyone there: ladies in their 50s or 60s singing their hearts out, members of the Brazilian LGBTQ community, people of all sorts, but all united by a unique joy. And by the energy Madonna gave us, giving it her all in this show in front of 1.6 million people, with the sea right there, in an even more magical atmosphere than in stadiums, where I think Madonna has always delivered much more than in closed spaces. It's the same show, but I had a completely different experience from the others; it was incredible ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
And even now, I still feel a bit there in Copacabana, I haven't fully recovered from that emotional storm.
Sorry if I'm going on about the sound of the official recordings and especially the out-of-sync audience, but you can't imagine what I experienced in Copacabana, you have no idea what the crowd was like there. We all danced while watching her sing and move on stage, we were all part of the performance too. This needs to be remembered.
So I'm watching many times the TV recording searching for the emotions I lived through, but I can't find them completely. Sure, the recordings are incredible, but there are elements that make me think "the real show was something else". The thing I hate the most is that at some points, you can't hear the audience even though we were all singing along, the audience gets cut out almost abruptly. And the second thing I hate so much is hearing the audience out of sync (and seeing Madonna out of sync too, with audio that wasn't from Rio, but they couldn't adapt it in a way that seemed realistic). 🙉👎
The real show sounded almost like in stadiums: I could hear the voices of the entire audience, but I could also hear her live voice. It was incredible. 🌟🎶🌴
 
Sorry for this long message, I hope you all understand 🥺

I gotta admit, there's a tinge of sadness wrapping up this tour.
The amazing thing is, I got to be there for both the opening night in London and the closing night in Rio. I lived through the start and end of this epic journey, which might just be her last big tour, although I really hope I'm dead wrong 🥺
During the first night in London, I was happy but couldn't fully vibe with the show even though it was a total surprise. It was a rough day for me, and even though I was physically there, all I could see were the flaws.
Realizing I needed to give it another shot, I decided to catch the show again, in Lisbon. Then, being in Italy at the end of November (I'm Italian), I couldn't miss Milan. With each stop, I became less critical and started to enjoy the show more and more.
Up until Milan, I liked the show more, but it hadn't quite stolen my heart. I even thought maybe I'd seen it one too many times. I had never seen a Madonna tour more than twice before.
Then comes the surprise: I hear from my ex who lives in San Francisco, and he tells me he's got an extra ticket for the Celebration Tour in SF and invites me to join him. After some thinking, I managed to find a great deal on flights and decided to go, making it my first visit to the wonderful California. San Francisco swept me off my feet and was a magical place that changed me in some ways.That night, I was on cloud nine before the show.
I wasn't sure how I'd experience the show, given it was the fourth time, but I ended up loving everything way more than before. And this time, I saw Madonna for the first time from the stands, but I was still really close because I was down below. I was moved; I never took out my phone and danced and sang my heart out!
 
Then I did something insane: I hopped on a flight to Rio, where I still am now, working remotely from here and keeping European hours (crazy), barely getting any sleep. I'm loving Rio, like mad. The people are fantastic.
 
But seeing this show in Copacabana was an absolutely mind-blowing way to wrap up my journey with Madonna. I cried, I was moved, I felt connected to everyone there: ladies in their 50s or 60s singing their hearts out, members of the Brazilian LGBTQ community, people of all sorts, but all united by a unique joy. And by the energy Madonna gave us, giving it her all in this show in front of 1.6 million people, with the sea right there, in an even more magical atmosphere than in stadiums, where I think Madonna has always delivered much more than in closed spaces. It's the same show, but I had a completely different experience from the others; it was incredible ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
And even now, I still feel a bit there in Copacabana, I haven't fully recovered from that emotional storm.
Sorry if I'm going on about the sound of the official recordings and especially the out-of-sync audience, but you can't imagine what I experienced in Copacabana, you have no idea what the crowd was like there. We all danced while watching her sing and move on stage, we were all part of the performance too. This needs to be remembered.
So I'm watching many times the TV recording searching for the emotions I lived through, but I can't find them completely. Sure, the recordings are incredible, but there are elements that make me think "the real show was something else". The thing I hate the most is that at some points, you can't hear the audience even though we were all singing along, the audience gets cut out almost abruptly. And the second thing I hate so much is hearing the audience out of sync (and seeing Madonna out of sync too, with audio that wasn't from Rio, but they couldn't adapt it in a way that seemed realistic). 🙉👎
The real show sounded almost like in stadiums: I could hear the voices of the entire audience, but I could also hear her live voice. It was incredible. 🌟🎶🌴
 
Sorry for this long message, I hope you all understand 🥺

I gotta admit, there's a tinge of sadness wrapping up this tour.
The amazing thing is, I got to be there for both the opening night in London and the closing night in Rio. I lived through the start and end of this epic journey, which might just be her last big tour, although I really hope I'm dead wrong 🥺
During the first night in London, I was happy but couldn't fully vibe with the show even though it was a total surprise. It was a rough day for me, and even though I was physically there, all I could see were the flaws.
Realizing I needed to give it another shot, I decided to catch the show again, in Lisbon. Then, being in Italy at the end of November (I'm Italian), I couldn't miss Milan. With each stop, I became less critical and started to enjoy the show more and more.
Up until Milan, I liked the show more, but it hadn't quite stolen my heart. I even thought maybe I'd seen it one too many times. I had never seen a Madonna tour more than twice before.
Then comes the surprise: I hear from my ex who lives in San Francisco, and he tells me he's got an extra ticket for the Celebration Tour in SF and invites me to join him. After some thinking, I managed to find a great deal on flights and decided to go, making it my first visit to the wonderful California. San Francisco swept me off my feet and was a magical place that changed me in some ways.That night, I was on cloud nine before the show.
I wasn't sure how I'd experience the show, given it was the fourth time, but I ended up loving everything way more than before. And this time, I saw Madonna for the first time from the stands, but I was still really close because I was down below. I was moved; I never took out my phone and danced and sang my heart out!
 
Then I did something insane: I hopped on a flight to Rio, where I still am now, working remotely from here and keeping European hours (crazy), barely getting any sleep. I'm loving Rio, like mad. The people are fantastic.
 
But seeing this show in Copacabana was an absolutely mind-blowing way to wrap up my journey with Madonna. I cried, I was moved, I felt connected to everyone there: ladies in their 50s or 60s singing their hearts out, members of the Brazilian LGBTQ community, people of all sorts, but all united by a unique joy. And by the energy Madonna gave us, giving it her all in this show in front of 1.6 million people, with the sea right there, in an even more magical atmosphere than in stadiums, where I think Madonna has always delivered much more than in closed spaces. It's the same show, but I had a completely different experience from the others; it was incredible ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
And even now, I still feel a bit there in Copacabana, I haven't fully recovered from that emotional storm.
Sorry if I'm going on about the sound of the official recordings and especially the out-of-sync audience, but you can't imagine what I experienced in Copacabana, you have no idea what the crowd was like there. We all danced while watching her sing and move on stage, we were all part of the performance too. This needs to be remembered.
So I'm watching many times the TV recording searching for the emotions I lived through, but I can't find them completely. Sure, the recordings are incredible, but there are elements that make me think "the real show was something else". The thing I hate the most is that at some points, you can't hear the audience even though we were all singing along, the audience gets cut out almost abruptly. And the second thing I hate so much is hearing the audience out of sync (and seeing Madonna out of sync too, with audio that wasn't from Rio, but they couldn't adapt it in a way that seemed realistic). 🙉👎
The real show sounded almost like in stadiums: I could hear the voices of the entire audience, but I could also hear her live voice. It was incredible. 🌟🎶🌴
 
Sorry for this long message, I hope you all understand 🥺

I gotta admit, there's a tinge of sadness wrapping up this tour.
The amazing thing is, I got to be there for both the opening night in London and the closing night in Rio. I lived through the start and end of this epic journey, which might just be her last big tour, although I really hope I'm dead wrong 🥺
During the first night in London, I was happy but couldn't fully vibe with the show even though it was a total surprise. It was a rough day for me, and even though I was physically there, all I could see were the flaws.
Realizing I needed to give it another shot, I decided to catch the show again, in Lisbon. Then, being in Italy at the end of November (I'm Italian), I couldn't miss Milan. With each stop, I became less critical and started to enjoy the show more and more.
Up until Milan, I liked the show more, but it hadn't quite stolen my heart. I even thought maybe I'd seen it one too many times. I had never seen a Madonna tour more than twice before.
Then comes the surprise: I hear from my ex who lives in San Francisco, and he tells me he's got an extra ticket for the Celebration Tour in SF and invites me to join him. After some thinking, I managed to find a great deal on flights and decided to go, making it my first visit to the wonderful California. San Francisco swept me off my feet and was a magical place that changed me in some ways.That night, I was on cloud nine before the show.
I wasn't sure how I'd experience the show, given it was the fourth time, but I ended up loving everything way more than before. And this time, I saw Madonna for the first time from the stands, but I was still really close because I was down below. I was moved; I never took out my phone and danced and sang my heart out!
 
Then I did something insane: I hopped on a flight to Rio, where I still am now, working remotely from here and keeping European hours (crazy), barely getting any sleep. I'm loving Rio, like mad. The people are fantastic.
 
But seeing this show in Copacabana was an absolutely mind-blowing way to wrap up my journey with Madonna. I cried, I was moved, I felt connected to everyone there: ladies in their 50s or 60s singing their hearts out, members of the Brazilian LGBTQ community, people of all sorts, but all united by a unique joy. And by the energy Madonna gave us, giving it her all in this show in front of 1.6 million people, with the sea right there, in an even more magical atmosphere than in stadiums, where I think Madonna has always delivered much more than in closed spaces. It's the same show, but I had a completely different experience from the others; it was incredible ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
And even now, I still feel a bit there in Copacabana, I haven't fully recovered from that emotional storm.
Sorry if I'm going on about the sound of the official recordings and especially the out-of-sync audience, but you can't imagine what I experienced in Copacabana, you have no idea what the crowd was like there. We all danced while watching her sing and move on stage, we were all part of the performance too. This needs to be remembered.
So I'm watching many times the TV recording searching for the emotions I lived through, but I can't find them completely. Sure, the recordings are incredible, but there are elements that make me think "the real show was something else". The thing I hate the most is that at some points, you can't hear the audience even though we were all singing along, the audience gets cut out almost abruptly. And the second thing I hate so much is hearing the audience out of sync (and seeing Madonna out of sync too, with audio that wasn't from Rio, but they couldn't adapt it in a way that seemed realistic). 🙉👎
The real show sounded almost like in stadiums: I could hear the voices of the entire audience, but I could also hear her live voice. It was incredible. 🌟🎶🌴
 
Sorry for this long message, I hope you all understand 🥺

I gotta admit, there's a tinge of sadness wrapping up this tour.
The amazing thing is, I got to be there for both the opening night in London and the closing night in Rio. I lived through the start and end of this epic journey, which might just be her last big tour, although I really hope I'm dead wrong 🥺
During the first night in London, I was happy but couldn't fully vibe with the show even though it was a total surprise. It was a rough day for me, and even though I was physically there, all I could see were the flaws.
Realizing I needed to give it another shot, I decided to catch the show again, in Lisbon. Then, being in Italy at the end of November (I'm Italian), I couldn't miss Milan. With each stop, I became less critical and started to enjoy the show more and more.
Up until Milan, I liked the show more, but it hadn't quite stolen my heart. I even thought maybe I'd seen it one too many times. I had never seen a Madonna tour more than twice before.
Then comes the surprise: I hear from my ex who lives in San Francisco, and he tells me he's got an extra ticket for the Celebration Tour in SF and invites me to join him. After some thinking, I managed to find a great deal on flights and decided to go, making it my first visit to the wonderful California. San Francisco swept me off my feet and was a magical place that changed me in some ways.That night, I was on cloud nine before the show.
I wasn't sure how I'd experience the show, given it was the fourth time, but I ended up loving everything way more than before. And this time, I saw Madonna for the first time from the stands, but I was still really close because I was down below. I was moved; I never took out my phone and danced and sang my heart out!
 
Then I did something insane: I hopped on a flight to Rio, where I still am now, working remotely from here and keeping European hours (crazy), barely getting any sleep. I'm loving Rio, like mad. The people are fantastic.
 
But seeing this show in Copacabana was an absolutely mind-blowing way to wrap up my journey with Madonna. I cried, I was moved, I felt connected to everyone there: ladies in their 50s or 60s singing their hearts out, members of the Brazilian LGBTQ community, people of all sorts, but all united by a unique joy. And by the energy Madonna gave us, giving it her all in this show in front of 1.6 million people, with the sea right there, in an even more magical atmosphere than in stadiums, where I think Madonna has always delivered much more than in closed spaces. It's the same show, but I had a completely different experience from the others; it was incredible ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
And even now, I still feel a bit there in Copacabana, I haven't fully recovered from that emotional storm.
Sorry if I'm going on about the sound of the official recordings and especially the out-of-sync audience, but you can't imagine what I experienced in Copacabana, you have no idea what the crowd was like there. We all danced while watching her sing and move on stage, we were all part of the performance too. This needs to be remembered.
So I'm watching many times the TV recording searching for the emotions I lived through, but I can't find them completely. Sure, the recordings are incredible, but there are elements that make me think "the real show was something else". The thing I hate the most is that at some points, you can't hear the audience even though we were all singing along, the audience gets cut out almost abruptly. And the second thing I hate so much is hearing the audience out of sync (and seeing Madonna out of sync too, with audio that wasn't from Rio, but they couldn't adapt it in a way that seemed realistic). 🙉👎
The real show sounded almost like in stadiums: I could hear the voices of the entire audience, but I could also hear her live voice. It was incredible. 🌟🎶🌴
 
Sorry for this long message, I hope you all understand 🥺

I gotta admit, there's a tinge of sadness wrapping up this tour.
The amazing thing is, I got to be there for both the opening night in London and the closing night in Rio. I lived through the start and end of this epic journey, which might just be her last big tour, although I really hope I'm dead wrong 🥺
During the first night in London, I was happy but couldn't fully vibe with the show even though it was a total surprise. It was a rough day for me, and even though I was physically there, all I could see were the flaws.
Realizing I needed to give it another shot, I decided to catch the show again, in Lisbon. Then, being in Italy at the end of November (I'm Italian), I couldn't miss Milan. With each stop, I became less critical and started to enjoy the show more and more.
Up until Milan, I liked the show more, but it hadn't quite stolen my heart. I even thought maybe I'd seen it one too many times. I had never seen a Madonna tour more than twice before.
Then comes the surprise: I hear from my ex who lives in San Francisco, and he tells me he's got an extra ticket for the Celebration Tour in SF and invites me to join him. After some thinking, I managed to find a great deal on flights and decided to go, making it my first visit to the wonderful California. San Francisco swept me off my feet and was a magical place that changed me in some ways.That night, I was on cloud nine before the show.
I wasn't sure how I'd experience the show, given it was the fourth time, but I ended up loving everything way more than before. And this time, I saw Madonna for the first time from the stands, but I was still really close because I was down below. I was moved; I never took out my phone and danced and sang my heart out!
 
Then I did something insane: I hopped on a flight to Rio, where I still am now, working remotely from here and keeping European hours (crazy), barely getting any sleep. I'm loving Rio, like mad. The people are fantastic.
 
But seeing this show in Copacabana was an absolutely mind-blowing way to wrap up my journey with Madonna. I cried, I was moved, I felt connected to everyone there: ladies in their 50s or 60s singing their hearts out, members of the Brazilian LGBTQ community, people of all sorts, but all united by a unique joy. And by the energy Madonna gave us, giving it her all in this show in front of 1.6 million people, with the sea right there, in an even more magical atmosphere than in stadiums, where I think Madonna has always delivered much more than in closed spaces. It's the same show, but I had a completely different experience from the others; it was incredible ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
And even now, I still feel a bit there in Copacabana, I haven't fully recovered from that emotional storm.
Sorry if I'm going on about the sound of the official recordings and especially the out-of-sync audience, but you can't imagine what I experienced in Copacabana, you have no idea what the crowd was like there. We all danced while watching her sing and move on stage, we were all part of the performance too. This needs to be remembered.
So I'm watching many times the TV recording searching for the emotions I lived through, but I can't find them completely. Sure, the recordings are incredible, but there are elements that make me think "the real show was something else". The thing I hate the most is that at some points, you can't hear the audience even though we were all singing along, the audience gets cut out almost abruptly. And the second thing I hate so much is hearing the audience out of sync (and seeing Madonna out of sync too, with audio that wasn't from Rio, but they couldn't adapt it in a way that seemed realistic). 🙉👎
The real show sounded almost like in stadiums: I could hear the voices of the entire audience, but I could also hear her live voice. It was incredible. 🌟🎶🌴
 
Sorry for this long message, I hope you all understand 🥺

I gotta admit, there's a tinge of sadness wrapping up this tour.
The amazing thing is, I got to be there for both the opening night in London and the closing night in Rio. I lived through the start and end of this epic journey, which might just be her last big tour, although I really hope I'm dead wrong 🥺
During the first night in London, I was happy but couldn't fully vibe with the show even though it was a total surprise. It was a rough day for me, and even though I was physically there, all I could see were the flaws.
Realizing I needed to give it another shot, I decided to catch the show again, in Lisbon. Then, being in Italy at the end of November (I'm Italian), I couldn't miss Milan. With each stop, I became less critical and started to enjoy the show more and more.
Up until Milan, I liked the show more, but it hadn't quite stolen my heart. I even thought maybe I'd seen it one too many times. I had never seen a Madonna tour more than twice before.
Then comes the surprise: I hear from my ex who lives in San Francisco, and he tells me he's got an extra ticket for the Celebration Tour in SF and invites me to join him. After some thinking, I managed to find a great deal on flights and decided to go, making it my first visit to the wonderful California. San Francisco swept me off my feet and was a magical place that changed me in some ways.That night, I was on cloud nine before the show.
I wasn't sure how I'd experience the show, given it was the fourth time, but I ended up loving everything way more than before. And this time, I saw Madonna for the first time from the stands, but I was still really close because I was down below. I was moved; I never took out my phone and danced and sang my heart out!
 
Then I did something insane: I hopped on a flight to Rio, where I still am now, working remotely from here and keeping European hours (crazy), barely getting any sleep. I'm loving Rio, like mad. The people are fantastic.
 
But seeing this show in Copacabana was an absolutely mind-blowing way to wrap up my journey with Madonna. I cried, I was moved, I felt connected to everyone there: ladies in their 50s or 60s singing their hearts out, members of the Brazilian LGBTQ community, people of all sorts, but all united by a unique joy. And by the energy Madonna gave us, giving it her all in this show in front of 1.6 million people, with the sea right there, in an even more magical atmosphere than in stadiums, where I think Madonna has always delivered much more than in closed spaces. It's the same show, but I had a completely different experience from the others; it was incredible ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
And even now, I still feel a bit there in Copacabana, I haven't fully recovered from that emotional storm.
Sorry if I'm going on about the sound of the official recordings and especially the out-of-sync audience, but you can't imagine what I experienced in Copacabana, you have no idea what the crowd was like there. We all danced while watching her sing and move on stage, we were all part of the performance too. This needs to be remembered.
So I'm watching many times the TV recording searching for the emotions I lived through, but I can't find them completely. Sure, the recordings are incredible, but there are elements that make me think "the real show was something else". The thing I hate the most is that at some points, you can't hear the audience even though we were all singing along, the audience gets cut out almost abruptly. And the second thing I hate so much is hearing the audience out of sync (and seeing Madonna out of sync too, with audio that wasn't from Rio, but they couldn't adapt it in a way that seemed realistic). 🙉👎
The real show sounded almost like in stadiums: I could hear the voices of the entire audience, but I could also hear her live voice. It was incredible. 🌟🎶🌴
 
Sorry for this long message, I hope you all understand 🥺

I gotta admit, there's a tinge of sadness wrapping up this tour.
The amazing thing is, I got to be there for both the opening night in London and the closing night in Rio. I lived through the start and end of this epic journey, which might just be her last big tour, although I really hope I'm dead wrong 🥺
During the first night in London, I was happy but couldn't fully vibe with the show even though it was a total surprise. It was a rough day for me, and even though I was physically there, all I could see were the flaws.
Realizing I needed to give it another shot, I decided to catch the show again, in Lisbon. Then, being in Italy at the end of November (I'm Italian), I couldn't miss Milan. With each stop, I became less critical and started to enjoy the show more and more.
Up until Milan, I liked the show more, but it hadn't quite stolen my heart. I even thought maybe I'd seen it one too many times. I had never seen a Madonna tour more than twice before.
Then comes the surprise: I hear from my ex who lives in San Francisco, and he tells me he's got an extra ticket for the Celebration Tour in SF and invites me to join him. After some thinking, I managed to find a great deal on flights and decided to go, making it my first visit to the wonderful California. San Francisco swept me off my feet and was a magical place that changed me in some ways.That night, I was on cloud nine before the show.
I wasn't sure how I'd experience the show, given it was the fourth time, but I ended up loving everything way more than before. And this time, I saw Madonna for the first time from the stands, but I was still really close because I was down below. I was moved; I never took out my phone and danced and sang my heart out!
 
Then I did something insane: I hopped on a flight to Rio, where I still am now, working remotely from here and keeping European hours (crazy), barely getting any sleep. I'm loving Rio, like mad. The people are fantastic.
 
But seeing this show in Copacabana was an absolutely mind-blowing way to wrap up my journey with Madonna. I cried, I was moved, I felt connected to everyone there: ladies in their 50s or 60s singing their hearts out, members of the Brazilian LGBTQ community, people of all sorts, but all united by a unique joy. And by the energy Madonna gave us, giving it her all in this show in front of 1.6 million people, with the sea right there, in an even more magical atmosphere than in stadiums, where I think Madonna has always delivered much more than in closed spaces. It's the same show, but I had a completely different experience from the others; it was incredible ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
And even now, I still feel a bit there in Copacabana, I haven't fully recovered from that emotional storm.
Sorry if I'm going on about the sound of the official recordings and especially the out-of-sync audience, but you can't imagine what I experienced in Copacabana, you have no idea what the crowd was like there. We all danced while watching her sing and move on stage, we were all part of the performance too. This needs to be remembered.
So I'm watching many times the TV recording searching for the emotions I lived through, but I can't find them completely. Sure, the recordings are incredible, but there are elements that make me think "the real show was something else". The thing I hate the most is that at some points, you can't hear the audience even though we were all singing along, the audience gets cut out almost abruptly. And the second thing I hate so much is hearing the audience out of sync (and seeing Madonna out of sync too, with audio that wasn't from Rio, but they couldn't adapt it in a way that seemed realistic). 🙉👎
The real show sounded almost like in stadiums: I could hear the voices of the entire audience, but I could also hear her live voice. It was incredible. 🌟🎶🌴
 
Sorry for this long message, I hope you all understand 🥺

Yesssss!! Someone finally updated The Celebration Tour Wikipedia page 🥰
 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Celebration_Tour
 
 

Yes, such an "erotic" kiss at a moment like that is almost cringe, at first sight it looked cringe to me too. I mean, in Madonna's narrative, all the dancers have just died; it's not exactly the time you'd expect two guys to be kissing like that. I would have expected a more intimate kiss, maybe just a peck. Madonna wanted to include it as a reference to the population most affected by AIDS, the LGBT community. The idea was good, but the couple chosen was a bit off.
 
Anyway, despite the audio, it's still better than RHT dvd 😆😆😆

Yes, such an "erotic" kiss at a moment like that is almost cringe, at first sight it looked cringe to me too. I mean, in Madonna's narrative, all the dancers have just died; it's not exactly the time you'd expect two guys to be kissing like that. I would have expected a more intimate kiss, maybe just a peck. Madonna wanted to include it as a reference to the population most affected by AIDS, the LGBT community. The idea was good, but the couple chosen was a bit off.
 
Anyway, despite the audio, it's still better than RHT dvd 😆😆😆

Yesterday I asked a friend of mine who works as a cameraman for live TV shows in Germany how much delay is typical in live broadcasts. He responded that in television shows (talk shows), it can be a few seconds, in sports events up to 30 seconds, and in concerts 10 seconds to a minute, at least in the only three occasions he has worked on concerts. Occasionally, there might be a two-minute delay for specific needs, but he has never experienced a delay of 10 minutes. He mentioned that in such cases, they simply record and broadcast it later, hours or days afterward.
 
I also read on Instagram that the 12-minute delay was a specific request made by Madonna's team to Globo, not a common request.
Indeed, Madonna's team wanted to make various changes, including the choice of shots. If you notice, during "In This Life," it's all dark, but a couple of men kissing is shown, clearly footage from an earlier moment in the show (as confirmed by the guys themselves). I saw a post about it. It was decided that at that moment they would show a scene of a gay kiss, precisely because it was meant to add meaning to the performance. Madonna's team, in addition to synchronizing various audio tracks to make changes to the audio, had to do editing by choosing the right shots, not just selecting which cameras to show live.
The choice made for "In This Life/Live to Tell" is beautiful, and I'm glad they used this delay to work on a nice edit of the footage. Although, if I were to be overly critical, I might have preferred a more intimate kiss. But probably, it was the only one the cameramen captured from the beginning of the show.
 
Anyway, we're so happy about her glory and about her show. It's just that here we're on her fan forum, we already said we loved everything, now we're talking about something which made us sad.
But we're still happy about the show!
I'm just sorry for Madonna's image, really. In the mainstream audience, she already doesn't have a reputation for being someone who can sing or someone who sings live, and with such glaring errors, you'd almost think they did it on purpose or didn't have enough time to do such work decently.

Yesterday I asked a friend of mine who works as a cameraman for live TV shows in Germany how much delay is typical in live broadcasts. He responded that in television shows (talk shows), it can be a few seconds, in sports events up to 30 seconds, and in concerts 10 seconds to a minute, at least in the only three occasions he has worked on concerts. Occasionally, there might be a two-minute delay for specific needs, but he has never experienced a delay of 10 minutes. He mentioned that in such cases, they simply record and broadcast it later, hours or days afterward.
 
I also read on Instagram that the 12-minute delay was a specific request made by Madonna's team to Globo, not a common request.
Indeed, Madonna's team wanted to make various changes, including the choice of shots. If you notice, during "In This Life," it's all dark, but a couple of men kissing is shown, clearly footage from an earlier moment in the show (as confirmed by the guys themselves). I saw a post about it. It was decided that at that moment they would show a scene of a gay kiss, precisely because it was meant to add meaning to the performance. Madonna's team, in addition to synchronizing various audio tracks to make changes to the audio, had to do editing by choosing the right shots, not just selecting which cameras to show live.
The choice made for "In This Life/Live to Tell" is beautiful, and I'm glad they used this delay to work on a nice edit of the footage. Although, if I were to be overly critical, I might have preferred a more intimate kiss. But probably, it was the only one the cameramen captured from the beginning of the show.
 
Anyway, we're so happy about her glory and about her show. It's just that here we're on her fan forum, we already said we loved everything, now we're talking about something which made us sad.
But we're still happy about the show!
I'm just sorry for Madonna's image, really. In the mainstream audience, she already doesn't have a reputation for being someone who can sing or someone who sings live, and with such glaring errors, you'd almost think they did it on purpose or didn't have enough time to do such work decently.

Hmmm. Live broadcasts happen with sports events and all sorts of things all the time without issues. I’m not saying everything should be expected to be perfect but with today’s technology syncing up multiple audio sources shouldn’t be complicated for an entire team of professionals with a 10 minute delay up their sleeve. 10 minutes is very generous, in fact, it is not technically a live broadcast really.
In those parts where her lips didn’t match the audio instead of trying to adjust the audio they could very easily have cut to a wide shot or some dancers to cover it up. I really think they did a bad job protecting Madonna’s reputation at times because there are moments where it appears she is just terrible at lip syncing. Holiday she is literally singing different words at one point. That shot should never have gone to air like that.
 

The consistently out of sync audience should in fact be due to merging the audience recording with that of the soundboard. The timing might have been misaligned from the start and remained so throughout.
While the audio feed directly from the mixing console has no delays, the audio reaching the audience through the event's speakers has a slight delay, causing temporal incongruence. They must be synced, because even if you record them simultaneously if you merge them together they're not in sync, obviously.
In my opinion, they attempted an endeavor that no one had ever tried before. I believe it's the first time someone has tried to modify an entire show's audio in just ten minutes and then immediately broadcast it. The likelihood of making mistakes or overlooking certain things, in my opinion, is extremely high.

I agree with @True Blue 84
I think there is a lot of misogyny. In the 80s, Madonna had a huge success and overshadowed many other artists. They said she wouldn't last, that she was a bitch without talent.
They said she couldn't sing or dance (when in fact she danced better than almost all other female popstars), because she was strong and controversial, as you say.
Sexuality came later, Madonna was already criticized in 1985, when she became very famous, for the way she owned her sexuality and challenged social conventions. Prince showed his butt and wasn't criticized, Bowie pretended to perform oral sex on his guitarist guitar and people found it amusing, but Madonna was demolished for much less. The reason? She's a woman and women were not suppose to behave like that!

I guess we're gonna have a concert film which will be Rio + Berlin + London + Milan + Mexico + San Francisco + Lisbon... Every show in a single concert film. Isn't it awesome? 

The reason we are not happy with the audio is that it's bad and that we care about her and we want to keep authentic memories of these moments. We love her religiously. We want them to be loved and to be remember as the legend she is.
We're not being hateful. We just want authentic memories, not evidently fake ones.
I'm happy for this big success. I was there and I LITERALLY CRIED multiple times. It did not happen at the other shows of the tour I attended. But when I watched the TV recording I was so disappointed, it's not always like that, it only happens with Madonna because she always tries to mask her imperfections by making it all worse.
So I really hope they're gonna fix it.