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  1. In a surprising turn of events, Madonna has now cast herself as a young Lady Gaga actually. Madonna hopes that her portrayal will do justice to the heart-ship, pain and emotional struggles that Gaga has suffered through the many, many, many years of constantly being compared to a much more experienced and better-looking competitor. Lady Gaga will however still provide the vocals for the theme song:
  2. I hate those expectations by some audiences that artists always have to play their most known hits. I have seen countless reviews, even by professional music journalists that complain that Madonna did not sing every classic. If you really want to hear hits, you should probably just listen to a greatest hits album, or better, buy a jukebox. I can imagine that artists that do stick to this principle must really be tired of playing the same song over and over again.
  3. Would have loved the Virgin Tour as her Farewell!! Honestly, ... I'm also totally over this kind of pseudo-melancholic nostalgia to the seemingly long-passed time in which "Madonna was truly MADONNA.". The exact same thing has obviously been repeated tiresomely, over and over again, ever since Madonna first changed her previously distinctive look of messy hair and colourful ‘street’ clothing and jewellery in a more mature look as Mrs Penn known for the iconic short, platinum hairstyle. Poor Maripol was left with a full warehouse of rubber crucifix earrings that were suddenly no longer selling and was bankrupted in 1987. The paradox is that Madonna simultaneously both always been as well as has never been "truly Madonna". Who is the true Madonna? A punk-influenced cheeky 80's pop star? A modernized version of Marilyn Monroe? An controversial activist for the feminist and queer progressive movements? A profound spirituality seeker? A fitness enthusiast and gym owner? A screenplay writer and movie director? A devoted mother? A posh estate-owner in the English country-side? A children's book author? A skincare ambassador? I hate to burst your bubble but the incarnation of Madonna during Confessions and this part of her life was just probably the way you had "discovered" her and it was what first attracted you to her, as it was uncovering before your eyes. You could just as well argue that the faux-English accent on the Confession Tour was no more "truly Madonna" than her grillz and Instagram selfies are nowadays. No one that has grown up with Erotica and Truth or Dare would not have been predict even remotely what the actual subject and content of a book called The English Roses would turn out to.be. IT'S ALL TRULY MADONNA TO ME ISN'T THAT REALLY THE BEAUTY OF IT ALL?
  4. There will never be a Farewell Tour. P.S. Don't you mean "no songs younger than the Music album" ?
  5. Nobody (except perhaps you) is legitimising any kind of violence... The topic of this discussion was also never to determine the culprit and blame either Israel or Palestine for this conflict. The goal was merely to discuss different interpretations/appreciations of these lyrics in the light of recent events – this discussion is therefore focussed on the (public) opinion(s) and does not necessarily try to rigorously discover the truth. Every conflict that escalates to horrible bloodsheds on the battlefields always has multiple sides/parties. In this case, it's more than obvious to the rest of the world that a solution has to be found to stop this cycle of violence and that all people must learn new ways to exist together, make plans for the future and try to forget the faults that all parties made in the past. For God's sake, most inhabitants of both Israel as well as Palestine obviously don't want war, don't want violence, don"t want to hate and live in fear. Defending yourself is understandable, but it would be so much better to bring this shit show (excuse my French) to an end all together.
  6. My take? Who would risk their entire reputation and twist Madonna's arm (to get her to do something that she does not agree without). If you would be proven wrong after all that effort, you would never hear the end of it!
  7. What about Hung Up? Lately it seems that younger crowds in Belgum has gone crazy for remixes of Gimme Gimme (with a quite distinct Hung Up beat). I get it, because this music just simply provides an epic sound, it's very upbeat and unapologetically nostalgic.
  8. I believe a part of that disillusion has to do with the fact that Confessions was such an incredible concept album. Even if you only consider the music, .... that record tried exploring a lot of interesting topics lyrically and really found a great balance in making older, disco-esque musical elements sound more fresh. Ideas such as the non-stop-mix were really thought-through. She spent a lot of time on these conceptual ideas for the musicals, but she think that she left a lot of the production in the hands of Stuart Price. He also has a great story-telling quality but he also seemed to challenge her. Hard Candy was on the other hand hardly a challenge. It could have a much better record, but, although most people will argue that there is always a simplicity to her lyrics is always rather low, but Hard Candy did not explore the same depth. Dance 2Night always felt like she came up with a cool title first and tried to make a song afterwards. I similarly imagine that songs like Heartbeat, Candy Shop (althought it could be cool) and Give It To Me had more a sort of tour performance in mind. She's Not Me is a real clever song , but I guess she also just thought about the opportunity of an ironic interpretation for a self-referential tour performance. 4 Minutes could have been a cool concept for a 'peace song' but it was just too abstract and "meta" to translate it to a song or a workable concept. I'll wont refrain form killing some of my darlings: Miles Away is a great song, I love it to death, but it seems as if she is not as present in that song as she was in "Sorry" and even later would be in "I Don't Give A". Just before the divorce, she did really gaven us the impression that "she just woke up from a fuzzy dream". It feels half-baked I do also found some "Devil Wouldn't Even Recognize You". While it still has the essential Timbaland sounds, I actually don't think that it really not overpowers the song.
  9. I am actually surprised that everyone else here has interpreted Israel simply as the name of the nation. Madonna's later work is after all actually filled to the brin with kabbalistic symbolism and metaphors. According to me, Madonna is refering to Israel not simply as a place but rather as a state of mind (to paraphrase her introductions to "I Love New York"). The name "Israel" was actually first given to Jacob, after his struggle with the angel. It is believed to be derived from the Hebrew phrase "Yasher-El" (which means as much 'Connected with the Creator'). I think her description of Israel in "I am going to tell you a secret" also supports the same theory that she refers with "Israel" not only to a specific country/place/state but rather to a sort of connection to a higher spiritual level. You could interpret it even as a criticism, by pointing out the wide gap between the actions of a nation and the ideal of a spirtual, interconnected community of humans that go by the same name.
  10. Yes, there is really nothing that could really begin to describe how pop culture has been shaped around her. I can understand that she feels a bit tired now, because she has lived in a way that would require two lives for most people
  11. Generally, I don't really comment a lot on this forum, but I wanted to discuss an idea with you all! I really have been I have been pondering on this and really believe that I might have found a big clue with regards to this film. I suspect that the colour of the post-it's represent the main life-changing moments in her life and the story switches from one time period to the next, linking all these scènes together thematically
  12. "Yes, I have thought an awful lot about blowing up MadonnaTribe" - Madonna
  13. A honorary doctorate is something completely different. It's not uncommon to offer one to someone who has exceptionally made a mark in and had an strong influence on the cultural and social landscape. You could consider them as academic awards given by universities to individuals to recognize their exceptional contributions to society
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