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I'm sorry but sometimes I feel like I'm living in a different reality than some of her fans. 
Everywhere I go, every time I watch something, every time I meet someone, Madonna is there. Just yesterday I counted 5 Madonna references in shows I've watched in the past week alone. My non-fan friends send me things they see of her all the time, like a t-shirt at a store or whatever. 
The woman had a #1 album in several countries just 18 months ago, followed by a sold-out tour of very expensive tickets that sold like hot cakes. She was universally appraised after 3 mediocre albums and at the age of 60 (!). 
Why do some fans focus so much on the butt and grillz and elevate those things to the same level of her work? That's like 10% of her. Yes, her Instagram is cringy but you guys know she's a boomer, right? lol what did you expect from a 60-year old woman on the internet... and I've seen way worse, to be honest.
I 100% disagree that younger people don't know her music, or at least that's not what I see in my personal experience. Her hit songs from Like a Virgin to Girl Gone Wild are very well known by the few 18-20-year olds I know and they do like her. Online I also get that feedback. She's seen as an icon, the Queen of Pop, the top of the hierarchy. Her status is unchanged by some grillz or whatever she may feel like wearing... 
I understand disliking the implants/grillz/cirurgies but to say she looks "cheap, basic, unflattering" when she's dressed in amazing outfits with bomb-ass makeup and hair for the gods just screams of sexism, ageism and even classism to me... but that's just my point of view. 

You brought up some really amazing points ??

Mariah gets those numbers from Christmas albums...

It's never been done before by a woman her age, no woman in history has even charted on the Hot 100 singles chart at 62
 
Why are we holding Madonna to an impossible standard?

Aren't her streaming views (Spotify, Youtube etc) the highest for an over 50 female artist in music?
 
Cher's numbers by comparison are horrible

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It's "non-traditional promo" , you know nothing Jon snow ? 
 

I seriously doubt that

The thing people should keep in mind is that the Queen movie was filled with errors and Queen fans found it hard to enjoy as a result. So whatever Madonna movie they make whether made by her or someone else we will probably face the same reality.
What matters is putting her back in favour with the general public and bringing her to a new young audience. If they can achieve that then it will be mission accomplished. I think the actual content has all the makings of a really great project. It’s just a question of whether she can pull it off. She may have failed to be taken seriously as an actress but she has not failed as a director. Maybe W.E. wasn’t a huge success but it was not a mess either.

It depends. The angle can also be "the real story - told by Madonna". Also, judging by the post-its on the wall the other day on M's Instagram, it's gonna be very revealing and "Juicy". Media usually likes that.
I don't know. It's gonna be a gamble, that's for sure, and it needs to be REALLY GOOD to work and be accepted. But she has it all to make it work: a great and respected co-writer, good music and stories and a big studio behind. It's not gonna be "A Certain Sacrifice", you know. This is big.

Exactly.  Everyone over the age of 18 knows OF her but are pretty clueless to her overall legacy and impact
 
The biopic will do wonders for her legacy

Exactly.  Everyone over the age of 18 knows OF her but are pretty clueless to her overall legacy and impact
 
The biopic will do wonders for her legacy

I think she takes for granted everybody knows her past work but I don't think that's true for millennials or people under 35 or 30, in general

What list/survey are you talking about?

She used to be... 

Madonna had always gotten one of the highest video budgets of any artist.  Hell Warner's flew her to Spain just to shoot a video for Take a Bow
 
I always hear other Warner's artist bitch in the media about how Warner's always gave Madonna the highest budgets for her videos, even Prince complained at one time
 
 

I am Greek

Madonna had always gotten one of the highest video budgets of any artist.  Hell Warner's flew her to Spain just to shoot a video for Take a Bow
 
I always hear other Warner's artist bitch in the media about how Warner's always gave Madonna the highest budgets for her videos, even Prince complained at one time
 
 

And Die Another Day is a magnificent video. Really confused with all this hate that’s just came out of nowhere.

Uhm, you do realise that image quality has little to do with the actual production cost? It's like watching a 10th generation VHS copy of "ET" and saying the movie looks low budget. 

You forget those weird bathtub videos. They got a lot of press haha

At the Rebel Heart tour in 2016, a majority of the audience was WOMEN 
 
And a lot of their husbands being strung along with them
 
I don't know who would ever think that she's "just for gay men"
 
Ridiculous assumption
 
Gay men are just more vocal and obsessive fans compared to women and definitely compared to straight men

He did 26 shows in Australia and grossed around $40 million
 
Madonna did a mere 6 shows in Australia with her Rebel Heart Tour and grossed $14 million
 
Hardly, 20 times more successful and Madonna's per concert grosses were much higher in Australia than Elton's

Back in the 90s maybe she could've gotten an honorary MA in Marketing I'd say. But really, a doctorate? For what? 

Which also means she had prices similar to Elton's current prices to a tour that being touted as a "greatest hits/farewell tour"
 
Imagine if Madonna decided to a do a long ass greatest hits/farewell tour?