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Andy Cohen is cheap. He's a massive fan, managed to get close to her and then talked about it in details in his book, in a not very nice way, almost looking down on her. So i get why she avoids him like the plague.
And what he and Cooper did to Griffin, tuning against her was the tide was not in her favour, surely is a warning sign of how untrustworthy they are and loyalty is not in their language.
Plus Cohen produces pure trash, he's a disaster to pop culture. I kno people like the Housewives franchise but it's garbage, only there to celebrate and promote toxic behaviour. He's part of the problem.

I think this will be her Michael jackson this is it moment to be honest - its really going to be a make or break tour depending on lateness and health etc - she just doesnt have the stamina no matter how many times she positions herself with 20 year olds and im fine to accept that from her now at 64 - i think after she will just focus on the movie which we all know is going to be a waste of time - her movie career was cursed and so was her directing one - i would rather she release an autobiography - put a few new albums out and get some those damn 80s demos unreleased from the vaults... i would love some one-off soundtrack songs too  xx

I sorta don't think that's possible though. Kate Bush is pretty much a recluse. Madonna uses every opportunity she can to keep her profile visible. One of things about the Kate Bush song is that, apart from being an amazing emotive song about dealing with pain, is that  young folk assumed it was a new artist or that they'd unearthed some gold of yesteryear.
Like A Prayer has always been a bit omni present really and all the modern pop girls refer to Madonna or drag her out. Beyonce, Katy, Gaga, Britney, Ari, Miley, Taylor, Nicki have all been seen on stage, screen or in pics together. 
 
I take all this back if a song like Live To Tell is used and becomes a streaming smash. 
In the last decade or so I really feel like Live To Tell has sunk further and further away from public consciousness and has been sleeping off radar for a very long time. It wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't on a greatest hits collection tbh. I gasped when it wasn't on the one disc version of Celebration. While not indicative of her wider brand, (Groove, Vogue, Material, Virgin, Prayer), It's Madonnas greatest song.
Like A Prayer while amazing has had it flowers time and again. Live To Tell is shrouded in secrecy thematically but it is an incredible song about the power and burden of survival. That silence in the middle. Haunting and expectant. Almost an awkward unsaid silence or a taunt to the person who wronged her that something is coming. Will she break her silence? Maybe it represents a spiritual pause and reset for Madonna herself. Maybe its a musical representation of those quiet few moments in the eye of the storm after something horrific has happened to you where you're in this trance like state working out if you're still alive or what's just happened. Maybe it represents the point in her childhood when her mother died and there was just this void. Those two swoosh sounds like Angels coming to take her mothers soul away. It's the most effective use of a pause in a song ever. (Sorry Whitney IWALY). 
Madonna breaks the silence with the words "if I ran away I'd never have the strength to go very far" I'd always found a connection to the song Mer Girl a song also about her mothers death where she almost harks back to these lyrics like a part two. "I ran and I ran..I'm still running away". Papa Don't Preach being the single afterwards always felt purposeful with a level of defiance to me. 
I just respect this song so much I can't even. It's her best writing hands down. 
So yes to a viral hit only because it deserves to be said in the same breath as Virgin, Vogue, Prayer and Material Girl. 

M's live sound deteriorated once Donna was out of the picture .... she was an amazing backup, filling in for M's vocals and doing the difficult notes for her, imitating her voice. There's a brief moment in the video of Confessions rehearsals where you can see and hear Donna singing the I Feel Love part, it sounds exactly like Madonna, and their voices were perfectly blended in the live show. That's why you can never actually hear Donna's voice separately.

I do agree with this.... I wasn't excited about some tours because the concept was always the same.... emerging/landing on stage, followed by a guitar section, boudoir section with seducing the female dancers, some kid of ethnic music section, and then finishing with the club/fitness section. I know this is in Madonna's DNA because she pioneered the modern show, but after almost 40 years, I hope she introduces something a bit different. So far the only thing that has been changing were the stages, as technology progressed and developed.

I actually agree - 

I’m beginning to get the impression I am reading a bunch of bots on here. It’s quite dystopian. The Madonna community seems to be wilting away. How is it possible that our discussions have become so stale? There’s the woke brigade who won’t allow anyone to say a thing that they disagree with or find offensive, then there are the trolls who render every thread unbearable to read with repetitive nonsense. I guess it’s just a sign of the times, but it truly (@teammadonna - For your language notebook…this is the correct use of the word) sucks. 

I think you should decide whether you want a forum of truly posts or a forum with real discussions. 

I think it has a lot to do with slowly moving the production to Mexico - it's much more cost-effective to bring the whole stage production to the US and movie it around California/Nevada/Arizona on one side, and NY/Washington/Tennessee on the other, than to move it around Europe and then go all the way to Mexico from there. Shipping and travel costs are a major part of the itinerary. Tours are about making money first and foremost, pleasing the fans comes second.

Madonna tossed the multitrack for Lucky Star and asked Enya to arrange the new version. 

Yondr cases are used in almost all comedians arena tours. Chris Rock. Amy Shumer. Dave Chapelle. They all used Yondr. The reason is because they usually have streaming deals with Netflix/Hulu/Amazon and they don't want their show fully available by some bootleg video on Youtube months before it debuts on their platform. It's possible to use Yondr cases in large spaces like arenas and do it efficiently. I've seen it first-hand with the examples above. Having said that, I've never seen it done in an arena for a musical act. If she was doing it for this tour she would have disclosed it up front I'm guessing.

When Madonna ended in the Panama Papers it was only because of her Kaballah Center (i keep forgetting they rebranded themselves) charity "Spirituality For Kids" (which she founded when she did these children books), the IRS conducted an investigation on the Kaballah center in 2011/12 and they wondered why her non profit charity was registered in the Caymans islands ( a notorious tax evasion place). 
Most of the money she raised with Gucci and the Unicef when she did that charity event in 2008 went missing. Considering how high profile it was she must have felt the burn of the shame when it was revealed and she must have been mad.
There were stories about members being extorted money by the Bergs, forcing them to give money to their charities to "get closer to the light". They hired the spin doctor who helped Clinton after the Lewinsky scandal to make it go away and it did. Look, we don't talk about it. It's like Kaballah was all she was about and then, nothing. Even Ariana Grande don't talk about it and she, her bother Frank and her mother were members. In France they closed down their center because it's been officially registered as a cult by the state. Until Madonna speaks we will never know because she makes everyone sign nda's. Is Guy still into it ? He seemed so much into it when you read the stories people tell about meeting him then. I think she's still into Kaballah, the belief system but not into the Kaballah center. According to many sources it was just a scam and we don't know if she realized it or not. It's something that puzzles me how she fell for that. 
We so deserve an unauthorized bio covering the last 20 years ! 

The press said that Madonna fired her because she had a fling with one of her bodyguards while she was married and Kaballah forbids it, which sounds like total bullshit. 
Caresse was still quoted in the press in late 2004 about the Warner lawsuit, which she dismissed without mincing words (it's all in the Madonna VS Warner thread) and the settlement coincides with her departure which she initiated but seems to have been forced to. It seemed all of sudden because Madonna had no back up plan (she complained about having to do everything on her own because she no longer had a manager). Her sister wanted to write a book saying Kaballah forced Madonna to do it but it never happened. Especially since about that time Madonna had a rabbi at Church of Kaballah fired from their London base because he denied the Holocaust (can you believe that ? A rabbi denying the Holocaust ????) and she was starting to be very irritated by the merch at the church and other celebrities endorsing it publicly. So she had more power over the church of Kaballah than they had over her EVEN THOUGH Philip Berg did all he could to help her from divorcing.
The whole Kaballah fiasco, i say fiasco because it is, should be a whole book. They screwed her bad. They took all the money from Raising Malawi, the guy in charge Philippe van den Bossche dated Tracy Anderson, he laundered millions from the charity, that's when Madonna and Gwyneth parted because Madonna wanted her to chose between Andersona and her. She chose Anderson.
The Church of Kaballah made millions thanks to Madonna's endorsement and they screwed her. This must have really broken her and it's something we seldom talk about, both Philip and Karen Berg are dead now. Little is known about Madonna's involvment with the church today, it does not seem the Purim parties she goes to are at the Chuch or an affiliate. It's not even known if the church is still a thing. So maybe Caresse foresaw all this and tried to open Madonna's eyes. It's weird little is said about all this when Kaballah has been a huge part of Madonna's life and work for a decade. I'm very curious to know where things stand today.
 

I’ve seen entire episodes and that’s my opinion of it. All these reality shows have “heart,” they feature real people so there is always something the producers can dig up for the cameras to create an engaging show. It’s a formula we’ve seen for decades now. There are far better things I’d rather watch. Anyway I guess there’s no point talking about it since we clearly don’t like the same things. Let’s get back to Madonna shall we.

Even though I don't watch it I have lived with people that do in the past so have seen some of it. (Not enough to remember any of the famous contestant names that get thrown around.) Obviously I know who Rupaul is and the other lady who is the Madonna fan (forgotten her name.)
It's not that I don't understand the appeal of it, I just think it is trash TV that glorifies vindictive, catty behaviour and superficiality. The whole thing is beyond overrated at this point like the Kardashians or Real Housewives and is forced on us as gay men. I realise for some it is just a bit of light hearted fun and thats cool , we all need time to escape and have fun but too many gay men think these shows are the real world and dream of becoming like these people and its quite problematic. Queer people need better role models than Rupaul, Andy Cohen and all their minions. Sorry if that offends but that's how it is.

Believe it or not not all of us are glued to that superficial nonsense that is Drag Race. Not sure why you find it so hard to believe?

Lol HUH? 
It's because fans are expecting this means a change in the format of the show, not because there's a guest. The Pride show had a drag queen talk in between every song, and a lot of fans anticipate that may ruin the flow of the show. And I'm in that party too. I want a typical Madonna show, just like the format of her shows 2012 and before. I hate when she has long monologues and does jokes, and I think this may further skew the show towards that format, which is very...un-Madonna to me.

This was your quote babe. Where you brought race into the discussion. And age as a matter of fact. You said some fans would prefer a white drag queen over a black drag queen. And claimed that the reason some fans would prefer that is because they're older. You called people "prejudice" with "biases."
That's on you.
Can we shake hands and just agree that a fraction of the fans just want Madonna and no one else? And move on from this discussion?

I have no idea what Bob looks like or who they are. And I have no idea who these others people you listed are. Next.

Just because someone doesn’t care for a drag queen that happens to be black, doesn’t mean it’s because he’s black lol
I don’t mind Bob and he seems like a super nice guy on ‘We’re Here’, but people pay big $$ to see M, not Bob.
I don’t mind him doing the opening act, I just don’t want to see him scattered throughout the show.

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I don’t know, I think S&S his arrangements were pretty brilliant. I couldn’t have asked for a better sounding show, as it felt very very 2008. Unfortunately the way he approached the vocal arrangements was a shame ‘just sing it with the vocals from 1989 playing loudly it’s fine’. Stuart was smarter when it came to getting the best from Madonna’s voice that’s for sure. 

The pictures below are from 2014 if I'm not mistaken. That was seven years ago. If you compare these with the ones from M's Instagram story, you'll find that this is without a doubt the same person.
 

The pictures below are from 2014 if I'm not mistaken. That was seven years ago. If you compare these with the ones from M's Instagram story, you'll find that this is without a doubt the same person.
 

The pictures below are from 2014 if I'm not mistaken. That was seven years ago. If you compare these with the ones from M's Instagram story, you'll find that this is without a doubt the same person.