Neil
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I would guess there are more UK dates coming based on her current pattern of 2 per city (Sweden the exception as its a stadium)
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I wish I knew what the answer is. People have to have the right to sell or transfer tickets so I dont have an answer to how to stop the problem, I wish I did
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I just feel bad for my friends in the USA. So many didnt get seats they wanted for Chicago, Toronto etc and now prices are in the thousands. In the UK, Ticketmaster and AXS (AXS had 75%-80% of Madonna tickets for her O2 shows, Ticketmaster only had a tiny amount as normal) can only let resale happen at face value or below.
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47 minutes ago, stfan97 said:
I mean it definitely didn't go out to everyone in any case. I also definitely didn't get any email. And I've never heard anyone who missed that one year say that this email went out. I believe you, but I don't think it was as comprehensive a warning as you think.
It was also on the Icon news page for a long time - I could well have got some details mixed up - ive posted the actual Icon wording below. It's a shame that they stopped the LivePass process this tour. It would have meant so many fans wouldnt be stuck behind Ticketmaster's illegal bot resellers all getting the tickets before fans do. Absolutely disgusting whats happening in the US on this tour.
FYI Here's the full post from Marie (who runs Icon) which someone posted on the icon boards:
Lifetime Legacy ICON Members. Lifetime Legacy members (or Legacy members) are fans who had an active paid membership when we stopped taking new ones back in 2009, making the fan club a free one. After paying a one-time fee, those members automatically became Lifetime Legacy ones and are since then being given full access to the site’s forum, but also to devoted Legacy pre-sales when Madonna embarks on a new tour, for the remainder of her career.
All other members (including those who used to have a paid membership prior to 2009 but didn’t have an active paid one as of October 1st, 2009 or didn’t pay the one-time fee when the fan club became a free one) are Classic or Gold ones. Classic members are fans who registered for a free account after the 2009 changes, while Gold ones are free members who at some point purchased a Live Pass to access a special fan club pre-sale as part of Madonna’s 2012 and 2015 tours and were then given access to a specific board of the Madonna.com forum. Lapsed members can pay the one-off fee too to become Lifetime Legacy.
Please note that the Live Pass program is not automatically offered with each new tour (the 2019 and 2023 ones didn’t/don’t include a Live Pass program). Since we stopped taking new paid memberships back in 2009 and that there is no plan to open new registrations at this point, Classic and Gold members can’t be upgraded or join the Lifetime Legacy group.
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Just hearing people who booked non-VIP Package Pit Tickets for Amsterdam were sold these by mistake and are being moved into the Gold Circle! 2 of my friends so far as well as people on other forums. :-/
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3 hours ago, Krystof said:
I definitely didn't get that email and I only lapsed that last year because they took my money for 2009, never sent the gift, got nothing from the whole year and when I complained they claimed I never paid, but the charge was on my credit card, they stole my money and I wasn't going to have them steal more, I still have ALL my emails from back then, and nothing advising of what you just said, it's the first time I've seen this idea in the years since as well. I know if I'd received that email I would have happily let them scam another year off me!
It's not an idea, it happened. Im sorry you didnt get the email.
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ICON posted that they would be moving to a world where Legacy Members would forever more get first presale access for all future Madonna tours if they paid and joined. Everyone who was a lapsed legacy member had an email inviting them to join back for the lifetime legacy fee - I'm sorry if people missed that - they posted in on madonna.com and emailed everyone who's membership had lapsed. Its sad reading that people who were with Icon for 10 years didn't take up this chance back whenever it was :-(
I just wish they'd done LivePasses again this time as it would have been one way for lapsed members to have got ahead of the bot resellers that Ticketmaster has business arrangements with. The resale for this tour is disgusting, I hope Madonna joins Taylor Swift in the legal action against Ticketmaster for allowing it.
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31 minutes ago, scion said:
I always thought it was for unauthorised fan documentaries nobody saw.
HAHAHHAHAHA *unauthorised vanity documentaries that people sold tickets for then cancelled the showings and never refunded them that nobody saw you mean?
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43 minutes ago, Blue Jean said:
Only Fans creators
If I thought for one second people would pay me for content like that I'd be on it quickly
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Just now, IconicQueen said:
Awesome!! I think I have a bunch of your photos saved in my Rebel Heart tour gallery, they were all so good.
I released a tour book of photos from the run, I hope to do the same again this time
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17 minutes ago, IconicQueen said:
You took this photo? it's absolutely fabulous!
Honestly I don't see why they're not happy, it's not like people are getting free tickets using these codes, it's just letting more HUGE fans get access to them. Or what, are they unhappy the tour is selling? they are literally losing nothing here, nor them, nor us who love her.
So excited to shoot another tour!
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17 minutes ago, IconicQueen said:
People bothering to ask left and right for those codes are actually her diehard fans. Do you think her team minds that everyone just wants to buy tickets? lol If we won't get presales anymore then fine, those presales shouldn't be forever accesible ONLY to icon legacy members anyway
Thanks for using my pic as your avatar! One of the absolute best I ever took!
And yes, sadly they're aware, and not happy. I wasn't offering an opinion. I think that they should have allowed LivePass or Gold Member presales absolutely like they did for Rebel Heart.
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Thats because her team were aware people were sharing codes on forums. Keep doing that and we won't get presales in the future.
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37 minutes ago, Shoful said:
If anyone has a legacy icon code and isn’t planning on going to the DC show. Please send to your fav Madame X stan
And people dont realise why there were no more Icon Presales?
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1 hour ago, EgoRod said:
"Last month, findings from an undercover investigation claimed that the website was colluding with secondary sellers – permitting fake accounts that enabled them to bypass the multiple ticket limit. When the tickets were resold on Ticketmaster, the site was able to take a percentage from individual sales."
https://www.nme.com/news/music/ticketmaster-facing-lawsuit-following-touting-scan-2385891
They keep doing it because nothing happened to them
This article needs to be shared and shared again and shared fucking everywhere. Outrageous
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Those resales are all Ticketmaster staff buying up tickets and reselling them before they go onto the GP (in the UK the London Palladium box office staff do this..) or an agreed Ticketmaster scam. Either way absolutely sucks.
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28 minutes ago, elecu said:
I wonder how those people got to the front of the queue when I was clicking the join button as soon as it became available.
AXS still have seats going - I think a lot of the problem was people who don't go to many concerts didn't realise that AXS is the official ticketing partner of the O2 and always has 65-80% of the allocation, Ticketmaster only have very few tickets for O2 events by comparison. So on AXS, people were nipping in and getting A blocks for the 3rd night whilst people on Ticketmaster were still 100,000 in the queue for the first or second.
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There's so many of the travelling regulars not doing this tour - it's going to be a strange one. Some cant go because they've fallen into disrepute with Madonnas team, others just had enough after MDNA and Madame X setlists, some just have decided they want to leave it. I'll see what the schedule looks like, ive already got 3 US trips lined up and im trying to watch my carbon footprint
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The thing is even if you pay £1000 for a front row package, you inevitably end up watching the artist's arse for half the show as theres almost guaranteed to be a catwalk / B stage / heart stage etc. I know the majority of fans on Rebel Heart who paid for the £550 Heart Stage seats felt that was THE place to be, not the front row which was £1000 or so. Certainly it was the Heart Stage that everyone rushed to at the general admission shows - you could get front row main stage long after doors opened.
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I would guess/speculate/imagine front rows will be £500 - £1000 if they hold Rebel Heart pricing. Stage configuration will also play a part but in the UK I think Heart Stage seats were about £600 and in the US double that and more as dynamic was already in place then.
Then outside of the immediate front row vicinity on the floor I would guess you're looking at £175 - £200 again based on Rebel Heart pricing.
Mainland European dates have traditionally been standing on the floor as opposed to the UK, and a lot, lot cheaper and more attractive to fans who can get a 100Euro ticket and £60 easyJet flight and queue up for a front row spot and still have change from £250.
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Dynamic pricing is in full swing in the UK. Recent gigs ive been to have seen silly prices. I go to 100+ gigs a year- so let me share some recent experiences - I got pit tickets for Backstreet Boys for £200 which shot up to £900 and sold out. Westlife (dont judge me) I got front row for £300 and within an hour they'd gone to £1000 and had sold out. Bieber I held off buying the a $300 package which then cost me $1200. Same for other gigs ive done recently - Diana Ross, Rod Stewart and so on. The upside is that dynamic pricing also sees tickets go down - as they did for Madonna at The London Palladium and all the US dates on Madame X were people who paid $3000 a ticket were sat next to people who paid $138 or even $50 for some of the Chicago dates.
Big gigs are still selling out. The good seats are going at a premium, higher than before and promoters are then hedging their bets and slash prices or even give them away (Blue, Steps, Diana Ross) closer to the date. No reason to think Madonna will be any different.
It's the mid price tickets that are always the slowest to go - the first tickets to go according to Livenation are the cheap ones. So it's going to be key how they price the back floor level 1 seats I think. Big fans will want to be in the front half of the arena and many will pay whatever it takes to be there, for me its going to be interesting to see what they do with the so-so seats. For Rebel Heart they implemented dynamic pricing right at the last minute at the O2 and sold one row on, one row off I the upper decks for the second night which is also a way of filling it up.
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I don't see why the UK would get more than one city where everywhere else gets one city, especially when London is so easily accessible (vs say Milan where getting from over Italy to Milan, or from over Spain to Barcelona is a much longer trip than a 1 hour drive down the M40) but that's a guess. I'd stay in the capital city.