P!nk supports Madonna over 'misogyny' claim

[Starchild 3,237]

28 minutes ago, lalalagirl said:

...Madonna never once said anything as demeaning and nasty as those words Cher said...

In public, at least.

Let's not pretend to know every thought or feeling she may have about other artists.

But yes, M has been quite dignified towards other artists for the most part.

[Donna 17,865]

6 hours ago, Vas said:

In public, at least.

Let's not pretend to know every thought or feeling she may have about other artists.

But yes, M has been quite dignified towards other artists for the most part.

Well, it's a two way street! We can't pretend to know if she had such thoughts about people.  But who are we kidding?  It's been clearly known Madonna hasn't always been that nice to people.  But that usually was through personal interactions.  She never went out publicly and purposely said nasty things about others.  People who publicly insult or say nasty things about others are intentionally looking to demean.  They are looking for some validation from others to support their feelings.  They possibly are looking to damage one's reputation.  I can't think of a time Madonna has publicly done that.  I personally do not think Madonna ever intentionally sets out to be nasty to others.  I think it's her demeanor which may come off a bit jarring.  I have to think of the situation with Cher.  Madonna obviously said or did something personally that didn't set well with Cher.  But who was the one who went public about it?  Cher!  Madonna has never said a bad thing about Cher.  It's the same with Michael Jackson.  Obviously Madonna rubbed Jackson the wrong way, but who was the one who has gone public about Madonna and called her names?  Jackson.  Meanwhile, Madonna publicly maintains a fondness for him and only speaks kindly of him.  There were plenty of times Madonna could have jumped on the band wagon and trashed Jackson, but she never did.  To me, Madonna is known for grabbing attention and using any situation to try to prop herself up more.  And I think that's what rubs others the wrong way at times. 

With Pink, I think Madonna just didn't react the way Pink hoped.  That is why she felt that maybe Madonna doesn't like her.  But obviously, Madonna didn't say or do anything to keep her feeling from idolizing her.  Pink offered a vulnerable honest thought when questioned and now everyone is running with it as if there is some feud between them.  I'm glad she's speaking up about that as well.  We need to stop making things bigger than what it really is.  It only leads to further hatred and division.

[Roland Barthes 5,961]

a little thowback

[Donna 17,865]

3 hours ago, Roland Barthes said:

a little thowback

I think it comes down to that P!nk has a strong and unique personality, much like Madonna does.  Sometimes, even unintentionally, people like that can clash. Especially if one or the other is so nervous in being disappointed or saying something dumb to the other.  I think that's what happened with P!nk.  She finally met Madonna.  She was so wrapped up in her head about it; she created this idea that Madonna doesn't like her.  Looking at the Kelly and Regis encouter between the two, I don't see how Madonna came off offended or bother by anything P!nk said or did.  Maybe behind the scenes, there was a colder reception between each other, but nothing P!nk described seemed that way. I think if P!nk made an attempt to reach out to Madonna to clear the air, she'd have a better feeling.