Posthuman

Kylie is an artist. Fine art. Art that should be in museums.

And that really sums it up. Even though she said this recently I don’t see her sticking to that flop approach. She has been known to do a 180 on that attitude numerous times in her career. The fact she’s doing a biopic and reissues says a lot about what’s next I think (or hope.)

I live for your comments. Always spot on. No disrespect. Just totally realistic and honest. And I have said it a million times, but "seen as the older woman who came for Gaga"...THIS did way more damage with younger audiences than the fandom would like to believe. 

There are ways to promote yourself without becoming an absolute joke in the process when using social media. The daily fake pictures just come across as cringe and desperate for attention. Her social media is regarded as a joke by everyone I have ever talked with that is not an ultra stan. The same old artists are here to disturb the peace bullshit is getting very old, nobody is disturbed or outraged by her social media, they just like mock it and troll. I am just really hoping for a reinvention in 2022, I dont think I can survive another year of Madame X.

Yeah we should just all stay chill and keep looking forward to many more Eurovision performances, Instagram wars with irrelevant rappers and tracks like Bitch Im Loca. Who needs a greatest hits world tour when we all have candy shop to look forward to the rest of our lives??

Why? I'm agree with @Alexei I always made cassettes and CDs with True Blue + Who's that Girl tracks, and Bedtime stories + the new tracks from "Something to remember". I don't see the problem...

This is one of the best posts I've ever read here. You've hit every nail on the head.
I've been asking the "who exactly is her audience?" question for years now, too. If it's the general public, well, they want to hear hits. If it's the gays, they want Confessions. If it's young people, well, that's a delusional dream that needs to die. If it's the hardcore fans, then fine, give us more Madame X type albums...but sis also needs to accept that her time selling out arenas is truly over then.
I idolize, love, and defend this woman immensely in real life, but I really don't know how Madonna fans continue to be so confident that if she announces another greatest hits tour, she'll have a Confessions Tour, S&S, MDNA or, hell, even Rebel Heart success again. This woman has DESTROYED her touring reputation. Every. Single. Person. I talk to about having seen her talks about the same things: she's obscenely late, she has a bad attitude, and she doesn't do songs they want to hear. If it had been one tour, fine...but she's been doing this for almost 15 years now. She herself -- not younger popstars, not radio charts, not ticket brokers, not the audience -- has caused her touring career to be where it is, and any attempt to reverse it now feels far too little too late. 
I never meet people in real life who like her. It's almost universally a response of "oh god, Madonna?" or "I liked her 80s stuff" or "she's so embarrassing and weird now" or whatever else. So when that's the kind of response she gets by and large, how exactly does she get these people to buy an album, go to her show, or even go see the biopic? 
I'm not so convinced that she couldn't have maintained much larger success than she currently has if she hadn't gone down the route of trying hard to have Millennial / Gen Z Top 40 hits Hard Candy-onwards, remained a professional on her tours, given the general public just a little bit of what they would have liked (she did it perfectly on Confessions and S&S), and never stepped near Instagram. She isn't simply a byproduct of ageism and becoming a legacy act...Madonna was always at her best when she stayed in her own unique lane, didn't read reviews or pay attention to news, and did everything she set out to do with 100% confidence in the art. 
I hope I'm wrong. I hope she has the most legendary comeback next year or whenever she finally tries to do so. But it's been a long, long time of holding out hope for her to finally get it right again with her career, and I just don't see her ever returning from this vapid social media phase and endless babbling of "artists are here to disturb the peace". 

She talked about it at varius press conferences too at the beginning of 1998 so, it was officilay announced by her.

Madonna attempting a rock album would literally doom any chance of chart success at all, so I think we can rule that one out.

IT WOULD BE THE COMEBACK TO END ALL COMEBACKS
 
Imagine a debut video for the era of this amazing Future. The sun engulfs the planet destroying Madonna, she emerges out of the ground in ashes like a Phoenix and comes as Madame X. The video shows Madame X scouring the Earth recounting tragedies of her past in moments that would’ve prevented the ignorance of climate change and the destruction of mankind. 

I think it would be wise to let go of any chart dreams for Madonna. 
Whilst her fight against ageism is noble and right, what 12-30 year old really has any interest in that?
 When you are in the throws of youth do you really care that a 64 yr old pop star who's had everything has an issue with being overlooked for younger more relevant artists?
I'm not saying it's right or wrong I'm just saying that's the way it is.
She comes across as either wildly immature on socials or has an axe to grind about something. There's very little in between a lot of the time. Yes there's been some highly edited serves picture wise but aside from being a fascinating insight to the latter days of the worlds biggest star, she's sadly nothing more than a curio for the majority of the record buying / streaming public. They just....don't have an opinion on her cause she really holds no relevance to them.
Her last sizeable solo hit in truth was Hung Up when todays 30 year old would have been what? 12/ 13 just as that generation would have been becoming financially valid in terms of music buying / engagement then she's largely  faded into the background or seen as the older woman who came for Gaga. 
As for 30-40 they're in the work years busy living their lives and having kids (outside of the gays)..and when you're grinding hard to make ends meet in some of the toughest economic times in recent history (the last 15 years have been economically disastrous), one of the richest women in the world bemoaning on her socials or flaunting her extreme wealth, doesn't go down too well. 
40+ers will generally  remember her nostalgically but wonder "what the hell has she done to herself". I can't tell you how many people who I know who have loved her and who are sane reasonable people with a libertarian view, say this. They will want a slice of nostalgia but wouldn't be able to hum a bar of anything past 2005 and will likely only remember the last 15 years of her career for The Brits fall, Eurovision, Her ever morphing body and the Gaga comments. 
Most 60+ ers will see a peer to whom they can no longer relate. 
I'm just not sure who Madonna thinks her audience is anymore. There will always be pockets of girls and gays who shout "go on girl" " good for you" "live your best life" "yass queen" and a bunch of people who respect her choices and the voice she has given gay people, the AIDS crisis and female empowerment...but let's be honest. Madonna has started playing to the hardcore fans who buy multiple tickets in the front rows of many of her concerts...and that..isn't the general public. Whilst I have no judgement on that crowd at all..free world, you do you etc...that type of engagement will never transpose in to hitting the wider GP's pockets and hearts.
Her socials are nothing short of damaging to her career at this point and while I personally love and adore her and will ALWAYS support and follow her til the end, I am under no illusions. The general view of her is far far far from my own. More often she is simply passed on as uninteresting and "not for me" or "ugh she's at it again"
While she is on the right side of history for many many many reasons her commercial viability is......sort of lost in the wilderness a little. Bands like The Bee Gees / ABBA / Queen / Elton / Cher / Fleetwood Mac, some of whom who are still commercially active, have a great like-ability factor and the focus is largely on their past endeavours. 
I think the biopic really is her last chance to turn a tidal wave of public opinion around and in truth that's the only way to commercial success. Were in an era of like-ability more than ever....and if you don't LIKE or LOVE or FOLLOW someone..you simply don't appear in the world (socials) therefore you don't exist. 
The world has changed and I think most of the next chapters are just for us until her reappraisal happens and the bowler hat hits the stage floor for the last time.  
 

It has not re-entered the top 75 at all

GI2M is a great song. The lack of good promotion during Hard Candy/Celebration was a shame. I think it was a difficult time for her, being recently divorced and all...
Gimme All Your Luvin and Bitch I'm Madonna were the ones that actually help to ruin her reputation =( 

She has always used sex as a medium to sell and market. That is what her career is built on. That is the reason why there are Madonna studies and courses in universities.
When Madonna exposed her belly button for the first album photoshoot and lucky star video, she knew what she was doing.
Let's not re-write history people!

I can’t dislike a photo??
I don’t like photoshopped faces and don’t like young girls being obsessed with just their body and sex. What’s wrong with that?
if Lola’s generation like the porn-whore aesthetic, so what? Go ahead. I just don’t think it’s cool or smart…not sure what my crime is. Speaking the truth perhaps? *sigh*

Porn 

Actually...no. And We have Madonna on tape talking about that album
Starting at minute 1:06
Madonna herself: "I was thinking of doing a remix album called Veronica Electronica as an alter-ego, which is very goth"
And as soon the interviewer asks her if she still has that idea, Madonna was clear: "Yes, but i'll need to enlist the services of William Orbit who's currently working on someone else's record so, maybe down the line".
Saying it was simply a nickname with bootlegs is factually wrong. There was a clear plan and a concept for that. 

tbf the 2000s didnt have as big of hits as the 80s and 90s.
especially the 2010s  i blame the Madonna v Gaga rats preventing fans of either artist to enjoy the other's art.

People don’t seem to understand the blatant and harsh homophobia within the rap-HipHop community, and black community as well. It’s like they are completely blind to other peoples struggles.
This fan base scares me at times. 

Are you kidding me? The guy is actually gay and is expressing his sexuality and combatting the homophobia HE experiences in the process. What exactly was the “underlying message” or “artistic statement” of the Madonna/Britney kiss. It was a total stunt. And you know, there’s actually nothing wrong with that. But to claim lil Nas is “just doing it for publicity” but Madonna was not makes zero sense.

I qould love for her to work with Dev Hynes. He's the coolest. He also produced this great track for Mariah Carey. 
 

She couldn’t have worded it differently it didn’t seem appropriate to post also considering what’s happening with Britney as well she can’t speak up about that but willing to bring her up when it suits her own public gain.
plus like the previous comment she is a straight white woman whose was queer baiting with 2 other straight females, he is a black queer artist trying to breakdown barriers as well.
sorry Madonna it wasn’t your time to comment 

I don't agree. Remember when she used the n word on instagram? Should she be allowed to do that because she is not a racist and should we be okay with that because we know she is not a racist? No, there are some things you just simple don't do or say because they can be taken wrong or be offensive to other people.
Now, in this case, we have a black queer artist performing during Pride kissing another men. Why should she, a white cis woman, say "I did it first". Just don't. Celebrate the moment if you want or don't say anything if you don't.
And just to clarify, i'm not even offended by this, we know her and we know she didn't do this maliciously but it's so obvious the general public is going to react bad to this... It's just unnecessary drama.

Even if it's a joke she shouldn't post that. You know people are going to react when we don't know about your inside jokes. This kind of stuff is exactly why she is ignored by younger generations. It may not be a big deal for her or Lil Nas since they are friends and wathever, but it is a big deal for a lot of people who are offended by this. And in the end this is only bad for Madonna. But anyways... Drop that phone sometimes girl... drop that phone. 

It's apples and oranges.
She is a white heterosexual woman who kissed two other heterosexual women at the MTV Awards.
He is a black homosexual man who kissed another black homosexual man at an awards show for a segment of music that is notoriously homophobic.