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  1. I do not think it empowers nor minimize women. I think it's more of an observation of seeking material items to replace the feeling of being unloved and of someone who believes they can buy love from someone else. It's an observation of the choices made by people living in a society where their importance is based on a checklist of "worthiness" rather than what makes them unique and lovable. In the Blond Ambition tour performance especially the seriousness of being a "Material Girl" is mocked a bit but revels in the fact that money buys you power or the appearance of it in not needing anyone when you feel unloved.
  2. Ok, now just seeing this.....thank you @Jackie! Again, thank you @Fighterand wish you the best of everything!
  3. I like the idea of a series done in an unique way. Her career is too long for a film unless they do a more abstract film.
  4. Thank you for your thoughtful response. I pretty much agree with you, trust me. I just think she is always going somewhere with what she says or does and do not buy into her just wanting to "be relevant" or "follow trends." I know Madonna can carry a conversation with someone on subjects that go beyond the superficial. During her Blond Ambition tour I thought she made statements on American standards for females and revealing the individual underneath. She stood out more then because feminist at the time seemed to be rejecting feminine traits as a way of getting out from underneath the labels. I do think a lot of artists who say they were inspired by Madonna missed the point in her work. I go back and forth with what I think about what she is doing now. Is she making an artistic statement or did she have a nervous breakdown after her divorce and her family unit splitting up? She has still been releasing thoughtful music since then but seems to be highlighting songs more in line with what other pop stars would be releasing as singles. Back in the 90's she pushed for songs like Bedtime Story. Not sure if she has had more or less control over her music in the last decade. I do think she has to connect with the general public to earn a hit. I do believe an older woman as oppose to an older man has a more difficult time doing this although both experience ageism....but a song has to connect with a lot of people. Pop Music even though youth driven since the 50's seemed to still be loved by people of all ages when Madonna first started but does it seems only younger people create a hit with streaming now? Youthful "usually" means trendy and less individualistic. On the surface anyway. The difference I think between then and now is Madonna didn't seem to be in one mood for years. You saw many more sides to her than she is showing now. I do agree with you but am trying to understand her. I was in a defensive mood when I made that post.
  5. Because getting older is a sin for women. Why are you so concerned about her "public image?" She is the same person whether she appears in whatever you deem an appropriate outfit or one you don't like. Her values are intact. She still cares about humanity.
  6. Well I believe there was a full on manipulative assault by certain people in the music industry in the last decade and unfortunality there are plenty of takers out there. I never dreamed there were that many Madonna fans so easily led but also, in other news, I never dreamed that many Americans were so susceptible to manipulation. Still can't believe it.
  7. There's a couple of things I don't get. I won't talk about the hat. Why is she dancing like she's performing to Justify My Love to everyone of her songs? Even parts of La Isla Bonita seemed like that. I'm not offended, it just doesn't make sense to me. Stop humping everything and let these song's shine in their own way. I love her delivery though and it was great to hear La Isla Bonita. She also seemed to be having fun.
  8. I knew it was a hit when my cousin heard it first and told me about the song and how much she liked it. She was a very mild fan of Madonna.
  9. Thinking about her work since the beginning. I always had a sense that Madonna "knew me," as in knowing what I felt and cared about. The phenomenal thing about her though was she rose above the hurt I felt and didn't allow it to overpower the joy I could feel. I wasn't as successful in doing this as she was so she became an inspiration for me and a hero. If you look at her music in the 80's there is a lot of joy there with only glimpses into what is going on underneath as well. The joy is just as authentic and something I didn't believe I was allowed to feel from many around me but when Madonna came out and shone a light that her pain could not diminish, It was such a freeing experience for me as a teenager. I could experience "all" my feelings without judgement. Because Madonna's music was so uplifting as well as thought provoking she attracted a world wide audience. When Live To Tell was released it took my breath away. Same with Oh Father and Express Yourself....Rescue Me. Hurt is there but it was not triumphant over every other feeling and Express Yourself is the ultimate of self love. When Erotica came out there was alot more of "me" in there or I should say a lot more of what I focused on in life so it was very personally significant for me and I loved that album. Her music in the 90's was more balanced in exploring different sides to her personality and experience. Ray of Light really was the culmination of Madonna's search for real love in beginning her family. In the 00's she thought she found romantic love (she wants it all) and became more philosophical in her music and more brave in other areas she had not explored before. In the 00's she paid a price for both. I am condensing a bit my thoughts because I do want to get to the main theme of the topic...? I could write a whole essay on Madonna and what I believe is her quest for unconditional live. After her divorce I sensed she was becoming more like me, which was not going to endear her to the public. ? I got the sense that the joy was a bit more forced but she so desperately wanted to feel it again. The rebellion did not seem to have a clear direction. Her hurt songs began to lacked vulnerability and seemed unemotional...Devil.Wouldn't Recognize You, Voices even Miles Away doesn't feel all the emotional to me. Beat Goes On is the most optimistic song on the album I think. Her joyful songs are valiant efforts so I do love them...Dance 2nite, Celebration. MDNA really delves into my feelings and thoughts. This album almost validates my feelings as a teenager that Madonna was like me but unlike me she didn't allow others to control or take away her happiness. The anger and bitterness on the album concerned me for the reasons I give above. I defended her from whatever negative criticism she got from fans because I felt Madonna was responding to being betrayed in almost every way by various people who claim to "love her." I became super protective of her. MDNA I think was a good title because her origins are what drove her to becoming the star that she became. I'm Addicted sounds like an epiphany where it seemed she became obsessed and driven to become the star she wanted to be. It's all over the place because it represents everything that made her the artist she is. In the end of the album she is just sad. Trying to stop myself from going through every album...the song Rebel Heart was a relaxed return to joy as it doesn't feel forced but still does not reach the heights of pure joy of songs like La Isla Bonita. Cherish...just to name a couple. She's coming along in Rebel Heart in my opinion. In Madame X she is starting to reclaim her power and confidence in her feelings and thoughts. I sense it especially in Dark Ballet. I can hear it in her voice. Can I say that I love all the songs I posted....I just used a few examples to help me come up with an analysis of what her new music direction should be. I left a lot out. ? So my analysis is if Madonna wants to reclaim success with the world she has to bring the "authentic" joy. That is what I feel the world craves from Madonna. "I want to make people happy...." "Music makes the people come together...." It's message is simple but not silly. Her vunerable ballads with more balanced emotion are also a hit with the world. Joyful has to be balanced with Madonna. Her cutsiest album in the 80's, Like A Virgin still sounded balanced in her joyful songs, still thought provoking. If she just wants to just reach me she can just keep making angry, defiant, bitter or very sad songs but I want to see her joyful again. I have tried very hard all my life to be joyful so I love seeing it in others. If she wants the love of the general public back she has to bring the mature joy with added mature vulnerability in a ballad or two. Pop music, of course. She's the flippin Queen of Pop. She needs to act like it more for herself than anyone. I know you wanted to make this a fun topic. I hope I was able to do that.
  10. "Beauty's where you find it." I have always had a fascination with photography and find this discussion very interesting.
  11. I hate that hat with the fiery passion of a thousand suns and she looks like she's expecting in her rear end.
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