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great topic! I have always thought so myself, cause the key variation between the instr and the vocals is quite evident...yet i find the remixes deliciously addictive, for sure in my top 10 of all of her (remix) discography

YES!!!!!!! Exciting...

voted! thanks @Curtainsfor organizing this! Very curious...

i share this link to an article in the Guardian of today. In a way it is related to this discussion about all the hate she gets https://www.theguardian.com/music/commentisfree/2023/jan/29/madonna-celebration-tour-sexism-ageism-female-artists

To me, Madame X is very close to being a masterpiece (with a few moments where she made some decisions that hurt it slightly) I think it is a polarizing album for fans because it is more of a sonic experience than a traditional music album. I see it as a merge of music and sound design, a piece where Madonna's voice is a part of it as instrument and narrator, more than as a singer (though there are plenty of beautiful singing moments in it). In that sense, it could be seen somehow like what Bjork is doing nowadays: creating a sonic world where the voice merges and lives in, becoming part of it as an instrument that delivers also meaning and imagery through words. Some clunky choices in the selection of the tracks take you out of the trip she proposes. She seems to have the tour too much in mind when she makes her latest albums, and therefore the album suffers for it. The production's style of some tracks (i rise and looking for mercy come to mind now) if slightly reworked to fit the portuguese music style theme of the album would have made more sense as closers. Mirwais should have produced them of at least re mix them somehow in the end. As they are, they dilute the illusion created and go purely in the realm of the lyrical content. That is why I think some of you would prefer Ciao Bella as a closer: it belongs to the journey she took us to. All that said, the album is glorious. Beautiful production, surprising, fresh and not "of the moment" (there is longevity in it). I love it and I hope she keeps sonically exploring in whichever genre she chooses to dive into (whenever she is inspired for a new album)

Amazing work! I believe that Erotica's anniversary comes at a perfect moment in Madonna's career. Not much has changed, and if it has, it is because now it is not only the media being awful to her, but anyone with a phone in their hands. Sometimes I see what is written here about her (and the way it is aggressively and disrespectfully expressed) and I wonder why do i keep coming back (though I need to add that some of you present your "criticism" or divergent views on her recent work in a beautifully articulated and intelligent way, without any vitriol; for those of you that manage that, thanks for expanding my perception of her work) Whoever questions why she behaves the way she does nowadays should see this doc and see for themselves that, after all these years, she is still fighting the same fight because she is still receiving the same resistance and hate, if not more. But also, because that is the type of artist she is. I admire her resilience and determination to keep going and to keep rebelling against what she finds unfair. She has made an artform from her defiance for anything that opposes freedom and that promotes oppression and hate, whereas that is the system, patriarchy, etc. (or even her own fandom, which can be suffocating). Whoever says she "has changed" has not paid attention to her message and her delivery: it's always been the same: she pokes at us till she gets our attention and, once we look, she will combine a slap with a caress till she gets a reaction and provokes a thought ;) I don't always agree with her artistically, but i profoundly admire her as the artist provocateur she is. And that is why I am still here Thank you for the work put into this documentary and the generosity of sharing it. It has made me think and it has made me react. Very Madonna of you, @Blue Jean

The more i listen to this remix the more i love it. Cannot wait for the video!

Voted! Needed to get back to those demos...it's been a while! I really enjoyed re-listening to them. Obviously they are unfinished and need work, but i appreciate the direction she was taking with quite a lot of them. her original concept of 2 albums makes more sense when u listen to the whole collection of demos, she defo had enough good material for both (8 to 10 tracks each) and, with a 6 to 10 month wait between releases, it could have been a great way to present well the messages she was trying to deliver and a great time frame to spread the goods of both. 1 or 2 producers per album with a really distinct sonic direction for each would have help the concept of Rebel/heart. I think her statement/message got lost in the final version with the track selection and the lack of cohesiveness. Even with everything that happened in that era (leaks, cape gate, etc) which left me with a mild bitter taste about it, i still love most of the material that she offered. And she looked and sounded beautiful!

WHAAAT???!!!! this is incredible!! I looove this remix and Tokisha is fire in it! Their chemistry is so palpable. What a great move to make a vid for it. Thanks for sharing guys!

another amazing megarate! Thanks @Curtains!!!

This thread is wild...

Thanks for sharing! I love getting to know details of the creative process of her music, great article!

Voted! one of my favourite albums of hers, though i understand why it is so polarizing. Pity that the tracks (most likely) will get lots of 0's: to me, Madame X is filled with outstanding tracks. I think Madame X will stand the test of time quite beautifully...

same ranking for me!!!!!

Not the only ones!! Here's another Madame X stan, I looooove this album