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Pitchfork can go to hell.
GOOD RIDDANCE.
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He's fabulous. So clever to have a drag queen as MC of the show, and he's the perfect fit.
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No one is replacing Bob.
- Alibaba, Pretty Madonna and androiduser
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8 hours ago, MattyMads said:
Watching Houston on YouTube is it me or does she not seem in a good mood? It’s the only show for me on this tour where she seems fed up
According to people who were there, she openly said on night 1 that she was not in a good mood and not feeling well. But most said the latter half of the show she picked up in energy.
I've heard nothing but great things from night 2. Everyone says she felt much better, was in good spirits, and worked her ass off.
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Interesting that there are so many comments about bad sound throughout this tour, that I was kind of expecting it. And lo and behold, it sounded utterly fantastic at my show. I say this without exaggeration - it was one of the best sounding shows I've ever been to (and yes, I've been to plenty of concerts). The only thing was to maybe bring her vocals up just a bit, but other than that, the overall mix was great that night. Sound was rich, clear, fat and pumpin. And it was loud as FUCK (which I loved considering some shows I've been to lately have not been loud enough). And that heavy bass was so goddamn hard it hit you up in your throat. I LOVED it.
I'm thinking it depends on where your seat is, as most of the bad comments seem to come from the floor or the pits. I'm thinking the speaker layout is probably affected by the tons of rigging coming out over the audience, so perhaps that's affected how the sound fills the space.
But I guess I just got lucky then.
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13 hours ago, Alibaba said:
I’m not sure I’d agree with that. If you listen to a lot of r n’b, soul and boogie from 1978-1982, all of Madonna’s earliest material is inspired by and derivative of those genres. Reggie Lucas is literally one of the architects of that sound, and Madonna was a regular at clubs where Larry Levan, Jellybean and champions of the genre DJ’d. It’s mostly a case of that music not making it to the pop mainstream because the genre was considered black, and neither radio nor burgeoning video channels and programming like MTV would play it. Where Into The Groove and much of Nile’s electronic influence on Like A Virgin differs is in the slow infusion of techno, which was also already big in black clubs in Chicago and NY. In this sense, Into The Groove is a blueprint for the future of mainstream dance pop.
Also, I posted this literally three hours before this post by Chihuahua with the video embedded. It helps to take the time to check if something has already been shared. 😎
FINALLY. Someone who actually knows their music history.
The roots of Madonna's music in funk, R&B, disco, etc. ("Black music") is so far too often misunderstood, or outright dismissed. "Into The Groove" is the perfect example of that long held inspiration and evolution in her early work...and it truly became one of, if not THE, defining 'dance pop' songs of all time. The amount of things written about this single song since has solidified that fact. There's a real reason why ITG is often referred to as one of the single defining songs of the 1980s.
Not to mention the first two albums period, particularly LAV (the album). It's become far to prevalent to dismiss her early work, when this work not only launched her into the stratosphere, but defined the culture unlike anything quite before...and why every pop bitch in the game has tried to replicate it since. To truly understand it, in the context of the times, is necessary to understanding what the entire Madonna ethos is built upon (and pop in general since). It's 'Madonna 101' but some refuse to take the course. And it shows.
Also, a lot of these comments are clearly coming from folks who did not live through the 80s... If you knew, you knew.
ITG is an eternal ANTHEM. There's a reason it gets the response it does on the current tour, from the very first few iconic notes.
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29 minutes ago, Blue Jean said:
Why does it have to be custom engineered? None of the venues it suspends from are custom designed and they are all different. So it must be fairly flexible to what it can be attached to. It is even possible that when they designed the show they planned for the possibility of taking it to stadiums/outdoor venues. There are really just too many unknowns for us to jump to the assumption that the show won’t be the same.
The indoor arenas use the actual arena infrastructure to suspend rigging for whatever show is being presented, as in the picture above. Yes, all arenas are different, but they're made for rigging up whatever a production may need.
For stadium or outdoor shows, since there is no roofing (and said infrastructure) to house/hang a production, they have to actually build it (that's what I meant by "custom engineer" it). Like the Sticky & Sweet stage below -
What I meant was they'll have to build something like this if they're going to present the full, original production as she's touring it now - as major parts of the production require rigging (hanging) far out into audience, over the multiple catwalks. I don't think it's impossible...I think some of us are just unsure considering all shows so far have been indoors.
(Sorry, I'm trying to explain it as best I can (based on what I've learned about touring productions). I apologize if I'm not clear...
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19 hours ago, Blue Jean said:
Just watched some clips of Live to Tell and I’m quite sure the portal thing is not attached to the venue at all, it is all part of Madonna’s stage setup. Same with the lights, cameras etc. So they should be able to just plonk that on the beach and Bob’s your uncle
Actually, it is setup to be attached to the venue though. All the rigging for the entire show, particularly the extended lighting, flying portal, etc. are suspended using the infrastructure of the arena. That's typical setup for arena shows. Considering the design of this show, it essentially was made with arenas in mind -
The only time they design and erect custom housing for the rigging system (depending on the design of the show) is when artists do outdoor stadium gigs (hence no roof). They can design a housing that will support it though, but it has to be custom engineered for it (like the extended rigging housing the circular screens that came down over the circular stage b for Sticky & Sweet). So technically it's not impossible. But I think it depends on the specific design of the individual show.
Perhaps she worked it out as part of the deal? It would seem a bit out of character for her to compromise nearly the entire presentation of her show, esp. if said show is going to be filmed. Anyways, who knows...
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6 minutes ago, Honey Little said:
There was no tour book so I doubt there will be any official tour film other than the Globo live event.
Hmmm... I don't see what a tour book has to do with the official tour film? They are two completely different things.
Madonna is one of the very few artists to have a track record of some sort of official video documentation of all her tours - full show or documentary. I doubt she'd leave out this seminal concert tour, considering it's success and what it represents. I highly doubt there would not be a film/broadcast of some kind.
- nito84bcn and Leona Helmsley
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2 hours ago, Blue Jean said:
I find it hilarious people are always complaining about her shows bring over edited and now that we are finally getting what we want people are fretting that they might not get an over edited version
Personally, that's not what concerns me. I rarely have that much of an issue with the editing either way.
The only thing I'm a bit worried about it is if this is going to be the 'official tour film'...will it be the full original production design, or will it be missing key elements, considering they will be in an outdoor venue...?
Seems unlike her to have the official tour film be a version of the show missing key production elements.
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1 hour ago, Honey Little said:
I thought Jonas Akerlund already filmed all the LA shows for the DVD?
I assume a director in Brazil will direct the Live in Rio concert.
I believe every show is filmed by the in-house video team, every night. We've seen a bit of that footage from Sasha on his insta - https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2aKpQ_sm_j/ Most concert films from all artists are now compiled from that in-house feed, with the addition of some extra crane shots brought in on certain dates (if needed). It's not like the old days where you had to bring in a specific team, cameras, extra lighting, etc. That's just what I've picked up from reading articles about how they do concert films now. Don't take it as gospel though.
As for Rio, who knows, but it wouldn't surprise me (as said above) that she wouldn't agree to this unless the direction/editing can be done by her team, with the director selected by her. Perhaps it will be Jonas, as he was observing cameras and talking with the team in LA. Though directing live, in real-time, is a different skill set that one really has to be well versed in to pull off correctly. So who knows...
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As exciting as it is, I'm a bit worried if this becomes the final "official tour film" for this tour.
The arena production is a creative, technical and theatrical marvel that deserves to be captured in its full, original glory.
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The reason for lack of tourbook may just be cost to produce.
As someone who attends pro national tours for theater regularly, as well as other live shows, for the past decade tour books, or "souvenir programs", have been all but slowly phased out. Majority of shows I go to now no longer have tour books. I've inquired why with industry professionals, and they have all stated that the cost to produce them is high, and is no longer considered worth it compared to how many they sell. So, essentially, they're just not seen as profitable anymore.
Yes, some shows do make them still, luckily...but it's becoming much more of a rare thing.
It's not unique to Madonna whatsoever.
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2 hours ago, litemakr said:
And more of a direct connection with the audience. As Vincent Patterson said in the interview someone posted earlier in the thread, it lacks an "exclamation point" at the end. It's such a great show overall that it feels a bit rough and rushed in comparison.
Can someone possibly link to this post? What interview...?
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After having seen the show live, the ending was perfect. Not that I wouldn't have loved a medley of a few more big songs there, but while I thought it would be a bit anti-climatic, it actually flowed perfectly in the context of the whole show...and got a massive response out the audience. (And it was loud as FUCK.
I LOVED it.)
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23 minutes ago, True Blue 84 said:
Lets educate this delusional tiktoker 😂... yes im childish, no i don't care 💅
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZIJnxRhKF/
I looked at those comments...another old gay man completely blind to his own misogyny and ageism. Typical.
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In terms of iconcography, sales, music history, and the absolutely perfect introduction to who Madonna is, and why she is the one and only TRUE "Queen of Pop" - The Immaculate Collection.
Obvlously. It's perfection. Even the new mixes and Q-sound give it a unique quality that I adore. There's a reason why it's one of the biggest selling greatest hits collections of all time.For the general public, casual listener, and those who want a more career comprehensive collection - Celebration (2-Disc).
It may have some flaws, but overall it's a fantastic collection. Personally, I have very little issue with it, and it's actually the hits collection I listen to the most...especially when listening with other non-Madonna fans. It covers all the bases. (And I love the artwork too). It's also a perfect gift item for someone wanting to add M to their overall music collection.For the more passionate music lover, and the growing younger fan - Finally Enough Love (Deluxe Edition).
Covers her entire career until the present, and solidifies why she's the queen of the dance floor and the dance charts...as well as her half a century deep connection to dance culture/music/and the power of the remix.Honorable mention - for the ballad, chill lover - Something to Remember.
Obviously. Especially for showing M's strength in songwriting, versatility, emotive singing, and that she is a legit musical artist.And for exemplifying the magic of the 80's dance floor - You Can Dance.
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19 minutes ago, Blue Jean said:
I will say it too, a lot of people have a problem with plastic surgery/fillers etc. The Kardashians get a lot of shit too. And remember MJ did as well.
My question is why does Cher always get a free pass? You even see people say she is ageless
I ask myself this all the time!
Cher and Dolly always get a pass... and their work done is far more obvious and extreme. And started far earlier.
Then again, they are "national treasures" now. They don't provoke in the way M does, and never did.
4 hours ago, Blue Jean said:Madonna is also in a league of her own. It's like comparing Freddie Mercury to Michael Jackson. Both brilliant in their own way. But I do not believe Tina had more energy or was in better shape than Madonna at 65. (Which is what haters say to trash Madonna.)
I'd say they're about equal (considering their individual styles) with what they did/are doing at their age on stage. Tina worked her ass off on that last tour in 08-09 (like M now), but she said it was a real struggle, and took it's toll on her.
Wish folks could really be more appreciative of how unbelievably hard these women work, still, at that age...and they don't have to.
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Grown men who don't know how to properly plan their night out, and the following day...?
Oh boo-fucking-hoo.
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As someone who attends live theater regularly (and the occasional concert), I've noticed that a great deal of shows/artists are no longer producing tour programs. So I've inquired why with folks in the industry. According to them, tour programs are incredibly expensive to make, and are not the biggest sellers at merchandise stands. The cost to make them vs. how many sell is considered no longer viable to the industry...thus, a lot of artists/touring productions (concerts, theater, etc.) are no longer selling them.
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49 minutes ago, Pedro Beltran said:
Oh guys just shut up about the ass, it just shows how basic thinking and reasoning you all have, you are shown a work of art in the making and you can only focus in things the majority of us truly don’t even care.
Do something else do… DM or WhatsApp each other and wank off to your theories, drawings and observations please.
The fact that you can write so elaborate posts about it and nothing else, shows that you might have the potential to become a beautician or a makeup consultant at Target apply today
THANK YOU!!!
This woman has put in the WORK to give her fans (and the world) her life story, iconography, and legacy, live on stage...in what appears to already be one of her best tours...after chronic pain and a hip replacement...at 65...and nearly dying a few months ago (and when in reality she probably should still be home resting). But she shows up and after a 40+ year career continues to give the world the very BEST a popular artist can give (and that's saying a hell of a lot considering the state of the industry today).
I don't give a flying FUCK about the ass. End of story.
The Celebration Tour (Spoilers)
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Oh I fundamentally DISAGREE with that part.
Those classic 80s numbers are brilliant fun, the costume design is gorgeous, and integral to that era...esp. Into The Groove.
"Not that incredible"... uh, Music says otherwise. Most of those songs would have been great live, and would have added a great punch to the latter part of the show.
As for being cut, it's rumored to be because of the health issue (could she have handled it physically), and the show running long already. I don't remember anything alluding to it "not being convincing".