P!nk supports Madonna over 'misogyny' claim

[Ayham 5,717]

2 hours ago, EgoRod said:

You always have high opinion about this subject.

Do you think bullying is okay then? Do you accept that those that don't represent themselves as established by their society conditions or unspoken rules, deserve to be bullied, judged and aggressively commented on?

Why someone voicing up that they won't bow down to others expectations is a victim?

Why is not you with your reserved  ideas and close minded views the problematic one?

When you’re a celebrity & do something odd or shocking you expect general public to let it go? Lol… I’m definitely not a close minded person. 

[Ayham 5,717]

1 hour ago, Drownedboy said:

The first ageist person here is Madonna for me, who always goes out with young people, tries to hide her age and all that stuff. You are living in a bubble if you can´t see that.

 

SO TRUE, she suppose to be an inspiration for people her age… the fact that I saw ALOT of comments from people saying how she’s against ageism yet she refuses to look her own age… 

[Miki 245]

Madonna was always disrespected. Talentless, desperate, vampiric are always words used to describe her. If she were a man and gotten such hate consistently throughout her career she would have probably been an addict or dead. 
 

And now the criticism is that she’s ugly. So, what if she is? 

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[Openyourheart 118]

35 minutes ago, Ayham said:

 I saw ALOT of comments from people saying how she’s against ageism yet she refuses to look her own age… 

Embracing grey hair, wrinkles, and not getting any plastic surgery is only one idea of how to fight ageism. She constantly wears things that aren't generally considered to be acceptable for older women and proves she is capable of as much as a younger artist is. She's fighting ageism in her own way and that includes deciding what she does with her own face. 

[Miki 245]

56 minutes ago, Ayham said:

SO TRUE, she suppose to be an inspiration for people her age… the fact that I saw ALOT of comments from people saying how she’s against ageism yet she refuses to look her own age… 

In some societies at 13 a girl gets married and starts having babies. In the 50s young women were encouraged to marry and make a home. Now, at 65 a woman is encouraged to pursue a  career, look sexy, have young lovers... cultures and perspectives change and people like Madonna are setting a new trend which will be replaced by another in a few decades. 

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[Bjonkers 1,615]

FFS. Can people stop discussing this ad nauseum, it's a spiral of doom that never ends well.

[Would You Like To Try 8,708]

Can't wait for "this thread has been locked"

[Would You Like To Try 8,708]

47 minutes ago, Openyourheart said:

Embracing grey hair, wrinkles, and not getting any plastic surgery is only one idea of how to fight ageism. She constantly wears things that aren't generally considered to be acceptable for older women and proves she is capable of as much as a younger artist is. She's fighting ageism in her own way and that includes deciding what she does with her own face. 

That's true she constantly makes people her age or less still have human rights for fun

[Pootz333 2,789]

I'm glad Christina got the end of "Lady Marmalade". 

[Would You Like To Try 8,708]

I love seeing how this people who are fans claim to say she's a victim but read that on websites that will say "sit down Madonna" at every sentence

[Would You Like To Try 8,708]

But for example some things i may not like about her are not ageist,such as her boyfriends usually escaping from her and her needing another one,but that's not about Madonna it's about them,i just don't like that ,without a definite true blue and lonely is not a good idea

[Miki 245]

3 hours ago, EgoRod said:

 

We  don't know how the mental health of anyone is either. Because someone shows as strong or indifferent it does'nt means they are not struggling with depression or other serious issues. Assumption is a dangerous tool and acting based on your assumptions even more dangerous.

 

 

Exactly! 

[EgoRod 5,696]

2 hours ago, Ayham said:

When you’re a celebrity & do something odd or shocking you expect general public to let it go? Lol… I’m definitely not a close minded person. 

She did nothing shocking or odd. Also being a 'celebrity' is a status chosen by those who decide who is a celebrity. there's not reason to be mean or judgy about anyone whatever reason you are trying to justify is ok to do so.

[EgoRod 5,696]

On 2/19/2023 at 12:37 PM, Ayham said:

Totally what’s in my mind, you explained it perfectly well! It’s totally not about her age… or about a women.

The weirds part is the fact she’s fighting aging & wants to stay young yet she’s angry about ageism.

Babes let me show you what ageism means, because you keep throwing the term like a rag without knowing what it is.

You can be 16 and being a victim of ageism.

You are talking from a place where you feel entitled to have a harsh opinion about someone else life because it doesn't aligned with what you are taugh or those around you think.

Ageism is not fighting getting old like feminism is not fighting men.

Get some information and then be vocal about it.

 

 

[EgoRod 5,696]

44 minutes ago, Would You Like To Try said:

Can't wait for "this thread has been locked"

Good then, so maybe people stop  barfing opinions without a base or knowing what they are talking about, just because 'LOL' they think so and that's how things are. You know 'lol' celebrities.

 

[Levon 2,226]

Madonna has intentionally modified her look to what is considered strange and bizarre by the wider public, and the reactions have been according to that. It is only surprising, that some would like to reinterpret these reactions as misogyny or ageism, although young or male persons must also expect such reactions when they change their appearance "alien-like".

The (often exaggerated) reactions are just as planned and expected. Whether this masquerade is beneficial to their career, I don't know. In any case, she seems to enjoy causing this commotion.

[Ayham 5,717]

1 hour ago, EgoRod said:

Good then, so maybe people stop  barfing opinions without a base or knowing what they are talking about, just because 'LOL' they think so and that's how things are. You know 'lol' celebrities.

 

Hey “LOL” I think someone needs to grow up. 😘

[EgoRod 5,696]

1 minute ago, Ayham said:

Hey “LOL” I think someone needs to grow up. 😘

Yes you do. Keep going

[Ayham 5,717]

1 hour ago, EgoRod said:

Babes let me show you what ageism means, because you keep throwing the term like a rag without knowing what it is.

You can be 16 and being a victim of ageism.

You are talking from a place where you feel entitled to have a harsh opinion about someone else life because it doesn't aligned with what you are taugh or those around you think.

Ageism is not fighting getting old like feminism is not fighting men.

Get some information and then be vocal about it.

 

Thank you teacher! Wow I’m truly thankful for you. You made my day by this.

[Ayham 5,717]

This endless conversation… 

[EgoRod 5,696]

17 minutes ago, Levon said:

Madonna has intentionally modified her look to what is considered strange and bizarre by the wider public, and the reactions have been according to that. It is only surprising, that some would like to reinterpret these reactions as misogyny or ageism, although young or male persons must also expect such reactions when they change their appearance "alien-like".

The (often exaggerated) reactions are just as planned and expected. Whether this masquerade is beneficial to their career, I don't know. In any case, she seems to enjoy causing this commotion.

We are not talking here about the artist Orlan

The article quotes Pink on something that makes sense, nobody should be making comments or judgments or anyone else look, appearance or looks. Particularly when they are a woman and older than 45. 

It surprised me so much in a Madonna following being a trailblazer in so many aspects, giving way to queer, underdogs and misrepresented in society. How much criticism of appearance or having to follow social patterns or what it suppose to be or not. To please a bunch of cynical and repressed individuals.

[EgoRod 5,696]

11 minutes ago, Ayham said:

This endless conversation… 

Why you still here

[Ayham 5,717]

1 minute ago, EgoRod said:

Why you still here

Because it’s fun. 👍🏼 

[Ziploc 2,570]

5 hours ago, Blue Jean said:

There are thousands of people, most of them men

How do you know it's mostly men? 

[EgoRod 5,696]

4 minutes ago, Ayham said:

Because it’s fun. 👍🏼 

Being a dick is fun, I blocked you once because of your continuous puerile rants were painful to read, unblocked you after because I don't like to be that child. But hey you win it with honours. bye Felicia