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"You want to sue Madonna for being late on stage? She’s an artist not a service industry worker

There’s something about the terms in which their discontent is expressed that feels faintly pathetic."

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/jan/19/you-want-to-sue-madonna-for-being-late-on-stage-shes-an-artist-not-a-service-industry-worker?CMP=share_btn_twYou

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Some music fans seem afflicted by a sense of entitlement, and to have forgotten that inconvenience used to be part of the gig-going experience. Mind you, with today’s ticket prices, is it any wonder?

At first glance, the news that two New York concert-goers are suing Madonna for arriving on stage two hours late for a show at Brooklyn’s Barclays Center is hard to read without an involuntary roll of the eyes.

There’s something about the terms in which their discontent is expressed that feels faintly pathetic. Hang on, you went to a gig and got upset because it finished late, you “had to get up early to go to work the following day” and, worse, faced “limited public transportation” en route home?

It is not an argument destined to cut much mustard with anyone who – like the claimants – is old enough to remember a time before golden circles, cordoned-off glamping areas at festivals, corporate packages, VIP suites, lounges and viewing platforms, “ultimate bars” and all the other latterday additions that have turned gigs into a branch of the hospitality industry. A time when a degree of discomfort and inconvenience was part of the gig-going deal. It seems to speak rather loudly about an entitlement on the part of the audience; a tendency to treat artists as though they work in a branch of the service industries: “I’ve paid my money, you had better do exactly what I want or else.”

So there’s a certain irony about the fact that a considerable chunk of the Madonna show that occasioned the lawsuit involves a recreation of the arty, post-disco early-80s New York demimonde from which the singer sprung, complete with a dancer in character as Jean-Michel Basquiat and a mockup of the entrance to the Paradise Garage club.

It seems doubtful that anyone who attended a show by Basquiat’s noise-rock band Gray, or turned up to hear the Garage’s genius but drug-addled resident DJ Larry Levan, ever considered getting the lawyers in because a late start meant they faced “limited public transportation” home.

Then again, no one who attended a gig in the days when discomfort and inconvenience were standard paid the astronomical sums people are expected to cough up for tickets these days. The cheapest seats for Madonna’s London shows were £50, the most expensive were £432.25, and that is assuming you didn’t miss out on the hugely oversubscribed initial sale and end up taking the resold tickets route: one site, Viagogo, was advertising tickets at £1,870 each. And this, it should be added, is not uncommon pricing for big arena shows. Nothing generates a sense of entitlement like spending the best part of a grand on a couple of gig tickets, and if attendees have to leave before the end to catch the last train home, they’re going to feel short-changed and angry.

There, one suspects, lies the nub of the problem: it isn’t really a matter of latterday gig-goers not knowing they’re born or making unreasonable demands on an artist, it’s a simple question of economics.

Alexis Petridis

 

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10 minutes ago, True Blue 84 said:

Anybody know their names? Or insta... Would love to see how they look like. Don't know why 😅

Michael Fellows and Jonathan Hadden, according to the articles and the document filed: https://www.scribd.com/document/699872184/Fellows-v-Ciccone

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Michael Fellows and Jonathan Hadden, if the two of you are "sue happy", go sue Ticketmaster.  Their service charges are insane!

Why is the service fee on a $500 ticket higher than a $100 ticket?  What extra level of "service" are you getting to justify the higher fee?  Don't get me started! :angryaf:

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31 minutes ago, Askeroff said:

"You want to sue Madonna for being late on stage? She’s an artist not a service industry worker

There’s something about the terms in which their discontent is expressed that feels faintly pathetic."

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/jan/19/you-want-to-sue-madonna-for-being-late-on-stage-shes-an-artist-not-a-service-industry-worker?CMP=share_btn_twYou

4000.jpg?width=620&dpr=2&s=none

Some music fans seem afflicted by a sense of entitlement, and to have forgotten that inconvenience used to be part of the gig-going experience. Mind you, with today’s ticket prices, is it any wonder?

At first glance, the news that two New York concert-goers are suing Madonna for arriving on stage two hours late for a show at Brooklyn’s Barclays Center is hard to read without an involuntary roll of the eyes.

There’s something about the terms in which their discontent is expressed that feels faintly pathetic. Hang on, you went to a gig and got upset because it finished late, you “had to get up early to go to work the following day” and, worse, faced “limited public transportation” en route home?

It is not an argument destined to cut much mustard with anyone who – like the claimants – is old enough to remember a time before golden circles, cordoned-off glamping areas at festivals, corporate packages, VIP suites, lounges and viewing platforms, “ultimate bars” and all the other latterday additions that have turned gigs into a branch of the hospitality industry. A time when a degree of discomfort and inconvenience was part of the gig-going deal. It seems to speak rather loudly about an entitlement on the part of the audience; a tendency to treat artists as though they work in a branch of the service industries: “I’ve paid my money, you had better do exactly what I want or else.”

So there’s a certain irony about the fact that a considerable chunk of the Madonna show that occasioned the lawsuit involves a recreation of the arty, post-disco early-80s New York demimonde from which the singer sprung, complete with a dancer in character as Jean-Michel Basquiat and a mockup of the entrance to the Paradise Garage club.

It seems doubtful that anyone who attended a show by Basquiat’s noise-rock band Gray, or turned up to hear the Garage’s genius but drug-addled resident DJ Larry Levan, ever considered getting the lawyers in because a late start meant they faced “limited public transportation” home.

Then again, no one who attended a gig in the days when discomfort and inconvenience were standard paid the astronomical sums people are expected to cough up for tickets these days. The cheapest seats for Madonna’s London shows were £50, the most expensive were £432.25, and that is assuming you didn’t miss out on the hugely oversubscribed initial sale and end up taking the resold tickets route: one site, Viagogo, was advertising tickets at £1,870 each. And this, it should be added, is not uncommon pricing for big arena shows. Nothing generates a sense of entitlement like spending the best part of a grand on a couple of gig tickets, and if attendees have to leave before the end to catch the last train home, they’re going to feel short-changed and angry.

There, one suspects, lies the nub of the problem: it isn’t really a matter of latterday gig-goers not knowing they’re born or making unreasonable demands on an artist, it’s a simple question of economics.

Alexis Petridis

 

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4 minutes ago, BILLSTER said:

Michael Fellows and Jonathan Hadden, if the two of you are "sue happy", go sue Ticketmaster.  Their service charges are insane!

Why is the service fee on a $500 ticket higher than a $100 ticket?  What extra level of "service" are you getting to justify the higher fee?  Don't get me started! :angryaf:

They seem to have the spare cash to do it - they've spent $550 just on filing so far...

https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/52035113/Fellows_et_al_v_Ciccone_et_al

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The gals from the View did a segment on this story.   Sunny,  Anna and Alyssa stuck up for Madonna.  In fact, Anna bragged about going to see Madonna at the end of this month.  She was excited and wasn't bothered by having to wait.  The three pretty much said going to a Madonna concert is an event, and usually her shows starts off with a DJ.  Joy and Sarah were the only two who thought it was disrespectful and rude to Madonna fans. Joy and Sarah both also said, it wouldn't matter who the artist is; they wouldn't wait two hours for anyone.  All at the same time, I didn't feel anyone was shading her; it was simply their opinion and they recognize it's "Diva" behavior and Madonna does what she wants and most people enjoy her for that.

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Its amazing how much media coverage this is getting. She has become quite consistent this tour and these claims are frivolous, its the end of RH and when its extreme that it should be addressed, or just apologize sincerely. 

Says more about our trash media world than the story, anything to avoid real news and over 20 thousand murdered people in 3 months who are not white 

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13 minutes ago, MerBoy13 said:

I think this lawsuit is pointless and a cash grab. However she should be turning up on time for her shows. I and many others go to work and show up on time and quite rightly so, so should she.

She posted that video when the tickets first went on sale where she seemed genuinely grateful and overcome that they were selling so well.

Now she's just shit all over it by being so disrespectful to her fans that have paid £100s to see her. I love Madonna and I love her music but when she comes out 3 hours late she's just being a selfish cunt and should be called out for it. 

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52 minutes ago, cyberrage said:

Its amazing how much media coverage this is getting. She has become quite consistent this tour and these claims are frivolous, its the end of RH and when its extreme that it should be addressed, or just apologize sincerely. 

Says more about our trash media world than the story, anything to avoid real news and over 20 thousand murdered people in 3 months who are not white 

Madonna thrives off of negative press.  While I don't condone her lateness, but like anything she is criticized for, she uses it to make lemonade from lemons.  At the end of the day, Madonna is still winning. People can't stop talking about her and it's usually for the silliest and stupidest reasons. 

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