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When was the last time Madonna was really relevant to the general public?


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6 hours ago, steady75 said:

Super Bowl because it happened before MDNA which was her most poorly received record. That album did a lot of damage. It wasn’t even a step down in quality compared to her previous records, it was a cliff edge. 

I would agree 

I suppose she was mentioned a lot for being pulled down the stairs at the Brits which I agree could argue shows she is was still relevant with the general public then and if it happened tomorrow it probably would get the same headlines 

But overall I would say the until the release of MDNA.  I suppose in the UK not that many people watched the Super Bowl as is more of an US event - but I still think she was liked I mean look at the reaction she got just for turning up at the premieres all over Europe for the WE movie and all eyes were on her from the public and press and not the stars of the movie  - I think just the excitement of Madonna being present overshadowed any interest in the film itself  But think the singles from MDNA were so poor and badly promoted by Interscope I think that was then the general public lost alot of interest simply because the quality of the music had declined judged by the 3 singles released even if there were some great tracks on the album  

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I agree Superbowl was the last huge moment. Of course she still attracts attention, but after 2012 we got a lot less press coverage, not to mention radios. The ridiculous internet crap doesn't count imo.

Let me give you an example. For every new record or every tour Italian newspapers used to dedicate a full page to Madonna, sometimes even two. I used to buy at least the main 4 Italian newspapers to read reviews etc. This hasn't happened with Rebel Heart and even less with Madame X. As I said already, almost nobody noticed MX was released in Italy. And Italy is the nation where even Gambler, Oh father, Love profusion and Girl gone wild charted!

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6 hours ago, TOpher said:

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I don't think ScottyX knows what the saying "household name" is?

 

Household name means, in general, everyone in an average household knows who you are, they might not follow your career or be a big fan but they gave a general idea of who you are

 

Madonna has been a household name since late 1984, although she's probably not talked about like she was on in the 80s, 90s parts of the 2000s, everyone, when you say "Madonna" knows who you're talking about

 

Don't forget her 2012 Superbowl performance was watched by more people than any TV show in US history at that time and nearly half of the US population was watching

 

 

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On 8/7/2020 at 10:27 AM, steady75 said:

Super Bowl because it happened before MDNA which was her most poorly received record. That album did a lot of damage. It wasn’t even a step down in quality compared to her previous records, it was a cliff edge. 

i feel like it was more of an experimental album where she was trying to just release something really quick. maybe it was an album to be played at parties ig... 

 

thats how i see MDNA. 

 

other than that, she must've lost a few brain cells then if she thought it was a good album... 

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10 hours ago, Ulisaax640 said:

i feel like it was more of an experimental album where she was trying to just release something really quick. maybe it was an album to be played at parties ig... 

 

thats how i see MDNA. 

 

other than that, she must've lost a few brain cells then if she thought it was a good album... 

Quick? It took 4 years to make. 

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She's not relevant because she doesn't want. I know that she works hard, but the general public don't know that. Hidding in a studio for 2 years, recording a record, and then promoting it for only 2 months, and touring quick for your fans and then dissapear again for a long time... this is not how the world works in this age, and I think this damages more her brand than a single not being played on the radio. 4 years gap it's not good for anyone. 

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MDNA damaged her career. I do like some of the songs (Beautiful Killer, Falling Free or Masterpiece) but the album was way too cheesy and childish. Gang Bang, B-Day Song or Superstar are absolutely awful. Gaga was very big at the time, she is not that big anymore, thank God, but I think that was the reason for this naive and cheesy album. Let's make it as simple and stupid as possible for a very young (Gaga) audience....but it didn´t work out. Unfortunately the two following albums, both fantastic in my opinion, could not repair the damage done.

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I'd say the Confessions Era was her last taste of real success. Hard Candy was the album that ruined her career because it was just so damn bad! And MDNA didn't help anything. As Daphne posted, it was childish, and I think Madge just needed something to "put out there". She herself has said something along the lines of: "The reason I push myself so hard is that I don't want people to forget about me when I'm gone". That's a very sad and insecure statement. 

 

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I'd say the "Music" album / Drown World Tour. Then she had a peak with COAD but mostly outside de US. I define "relevance" in terms of being copied, emulated and setting trends, not in terms of sales. Then, I think, she herself reverted to copy, emulate and follow trends. This doesn't mean what she did after Music wasn't good, it was and still is, but somehow she locked herself  in a pretentious artistry and took herself too seriously, which is pretty close to being a bore. 

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39 minutes ago, Gonzus said:

I'd say the "Music" album / Drown World Tour. Then she had a peak with COAD but mostly outside de US. I define "relevance" in terms of being copied, emulated and setting trends, not in terms of sales. Then, I think, she herself reverted to copy, emulate and follow trends. This doesn't mean what she did after Music wasn't good, it was and still is, but somehow she locked herself  in a pretentious artistry and took herself too seriously, which is pretty close to being a bore. 

Interesting! I do think we all agree Hard Candy, MDNA, and Rebel Heart were less experimental and more mainstream-of-the-time. Which is why I personally love Madame X the most of her post-Confessions projects, because it was so experimental and offbeat again! 

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Genuinely the MDNA era was the last time she was front and centre. Which is pretty good to have 12 albums where you are the Queen. 

Regardless of different opinions on the MDNA album (I think its great honestly) but the last time the general public people showed massive interest in her music was the MDNA album and the tour.

There was a definite shift in the public's perception and attitude of her from 2014 onwards. 

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I also think that she lets a lot of time pass between each album release, during which time, new artists rise to stardom and threaten her status and relevance in the music industry (only Sade can allow herself to put out albums every ten years). Look at Swift, Beyoncé and Lana Del Rey: they release albums almost every year, whereas Madame X came out in 2019! Sometimes I think that making abums bores her, but she is compelled to continue for the sake of relevance, it's just my impression

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24 minutes ago, BoyToyMark said:

Genuinely the MDNA era was the last time she was front and centre. Which is pretty good to have 12 albums where you are the Queen. 

Regardless of different opinions on the MDNA album (I think its great honestly) but the last time the general public people showed massive interest in her music was the MDNA album and the tour.

There was a definite shift in the public's perception and attitude of her from 2014 onwards. 

Yeah I think so too - regardless on whether MDNA was a good album the interest was there for it when it was launched and think people were hoping for something better than Hard Candy after a 4 year wait between albums but I think the single choices were so poor the interest quickly dropped upon release though. Had Warners been involved I think we would have got a different version of the album with some of the tracks worked on a bit more and better single choices and promotion and most likely a set list on the tour that had more hits like she did for Re-Invention after American Life perform as well as Music and Ray of Light commercially.

When she attended the premieres around the world for W/E around the same time the public went crazy to see her on the red carpet and not so much the actors in the film - was so obvious everyone was far more interested in Madonna being there - so think there was still so much interest around the time of MDNA anticipating it's release.

I do think the move from Warners and not having their expertise and clout with promotion and when Liz Rosenberg retired too that didn't help and was around the time she seemed to do alot of celebrity endorsements that I don't think helped her brand and how interested people were in her as an artist compared to period before 

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I think that it's very easy to answer. It's MDNA era.

Superbowl halftime show was absolutely amazing!!! The BEST Superbowl halftime show ever! period.

And I still remember people in my country saying Madonna's Superbowl halftime show performance was much grander and cooler than the opening ceremony of the Olympics. 

Even people in my country don't really like Madonna, but saying it like that means the performance was absolutely fucking amazing!

And MDNA tour was her The last tour as Megastar.

So it was the last time she Madonna was really relevant to the general public.

I mean her nipple gate and guest Psy's gangnam style etc... etc  She was in the spotlight for constantly making headlines.

 

 

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I think this is all absurd. Madonna is still very relevant in 2024. How many billions of people are there on the planet? How many have Madonna’s stature, level of recognizability, visibility, accomplishment, and influence? Even if you are looking at it from a point of view of commercialism, she is on the verge of finishing a sold out 81-date tour of Europe, America, Mexico and Brazil. She’s about to perform for the largest audience of her entire career, an event that will garner more press than nearly any other artist’s single concert would. When she was near death last year it made the news globally. Everything Madonna does gets attention. She has influenced practically every popular artist, visual and musical, out there. Her name comes up all the time. The right wing conservatives and MAGAs always have something to say about her…That she’s a has-been or pathetic and desperate, or the devil incarnate. They’re still talking about her! Her music is ubiquitous. She is the 80th most streamed artist in the world on Spotify, 40 years into her recording career.
 

Madonna IS RELEVANT. She just isn’t a contemporary phenomenon any longer. She isn’t young. She’s not interested in participating in the modern fame game. She could literally be on the cover of any magazine of her choosing, appear on any talk show, the cover of newspapers. Everyone would kill to interview her; even Piers Morgan. 

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4 hours ago, Alibaba said:


 

Madonna IS RELEVANT. She just isn’t a contemporary phenomenon any longer. 

 

What's really funny is that you're saying exactly the same thing as the other people who put their opinions here. You're just putting it in a different way.

 

So Just tell us your thought. When was the last time She was really contemporary phenomenon in general public?

LOL

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