PlayPause 2,684 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 9 hours ago, deathproof said: Pioneer no longer holds the rights to that release, they haven't in a long time. Says who? Quote Mind you, THAT was for the Nice recording, NOT the Paris recording which is what this thread is about. And Pioneer had the rights to the laserdisc master, not the raw footage. I doubt Pioneer made a deal only for one show during a world tour, doesn't make real sense. I agree with you regarding the Laserdisc vs. DVD master. Quote Also, IMDB is no different than wikipedia. Absolutely. A wonderful source thanks to all the dedicated contributors. Don't despise them. IMDB, as for physical releases, is quite reliable : there's nothing easier than reading a sleeve / leaflet, so the margin of error is real low. Fighter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrico 15,823 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 If they did such treatment to RHT and MDNA, I can only imagine what they would have done to TOAC had they released the whole show! Which was beautiful for its improntus and its mistakes... Still I'd love to have it in full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddyone 98 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Peter Magennis (who I think is on this forum) did a great blog with two people who worked on the Paris filming: Lisa Hollingshead (Line producer of the Blond Ambition footage shot for TOD): http://thebeatswithin.blogspot.com/2011/09/truth-or-dare-lisa-hollingshead-speaks.html Toby Phillips (Cinematographer): thebeatswithin.blogspot.com/2011/12/truth-or-dare-toby-phillips-speaks.html robder, Craigypants, LTSP and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathproof 10,608 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 10 hours ago, discohub said: I doubt Pioneer made a deal only for one show during a world tour, doesn't make real sense. The Pioneer deal was for the release of the HBO concert only, not the documentary. They don't own Alek's footage. PlayPause 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madaboutM 474 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 14 hours ago, deathproof said: She's missing part of her arm huh? it's covered by her suit jacket. Have you seen the performance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathproof 10,608 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Just now, madaboutM said: huh? it's covered by her suit jacket. Have you seen the performance? Then they shouldn't have blacked out the jacket, cause it gives the impressions that she's missing part of her arms lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madgefan 10,150 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I've seen the Blond Ambition Tour so many times that I already don't know if I cared if it was released on DVD now lol Is DVD still a thing? rlittler81 and robder 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robder 368 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I'm old, I like product. Bat-Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTSP 227 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 5 hours ago, Maddyone said: Peter Magennis (who I think is on this forum) did a great blog with two people who worked on the Paris filming: Lisa Hollingshead (Line producer of the Blond Ambition footage shot for TOD): http://thebeatswithin.blogspot.com/2011/09/truth-or-dare-lisa-hollingshead-speaks.html Toby Phillips (Cinematographer): thebeatswithin.blogspot.com/2011/12/truth-or-dare-toby-phillips-speaks.html Yeah i was about to post these links, thanks for having done it. The producers interviewed here confirm that the full Paris shows were filmed and that David Fincher indeed shot the Tokyo shows in full. Sadly Alek Keshishian said in an interview in 2011 when he was celebrating the 20th anniversary of Truth or dare that most footage were lost and they don't know where it is including what did not make into the movie (= hours of film). He said he did not know if Madonna kept copies of all this as she was the producer but the masters and film were lost when Disney bought Miramax in the 90's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymad 10,385 Posted August 29, 2018 Author Share Posted August 29, 2018 9 hours ago, Maddyone said: Peter Magennis (who I think is on this forum) did a great blog with two people who worked on the Paris filming: Lisa Hollingshead (Line producer of the Blond Ambition footage shot for TOD): http://thebeatswithin.blogspot.com/2011/09/truth-or-dare-lisa-hollingshead-speaks.html Toby Phillips (Cinematographer): thebeatswithin.blogspot.com/2011/12/truth-or-dare-toby-phillips-speaks.html Wow... so show WAS filmed in its entirety... I wonder if it frustrates her. That it is literally her most beloved by fans treasure, THE most asked for, THE most talked about Madonna show... and this incredibly filmed concert never saw the light of say in its complete form. It must annoy her lol. #icantfindthetapesisnoexcuse Craigypants 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robder 368 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Can't the united nations force a trial on the issue? Craigypants and Andymad 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat-Fan 1,168 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 16 hours ago, Popeline said: Yeah i was about to post these links, thanks for having done it. The producers interviewed here confirm that the full Paris shows were filmed and that David Fincher indeed shot the Tokyo shows in full. Sadly Alek Keshishian said in an interview in 2011 when he was celebrating the 20th anniversary of Truth or dare that most footage were lost and they don't know where it is including what did not make into the movie (= hours of film). He said he did not know if Madonna kept copies of all this as she was the producer but the masters and film were lost when Disney bought Miramax in the 90's. What about releasing the Tokyo show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTSP 227 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Bat-Fan said: What about releasing the Tokyo show? That must be a copyrights nightmare to solve...Apparently Madonna is the main producer but Propaganda is also a producer then is David Fincher up to it ? In the end all we can say is that for a show that had no proper release on video and dvd it is the show that was the most filmed of all her shows. Craigypants 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat-Fan 1,168 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 7 hours ago, Popeline said: That must be a copyrights nightmare to solve...Apparently Madonna is the main producer but Propaganda is also a producer then is David Fincher up to it ? In the end all we can say is that for a show that had no proper release on video and dvd it is the show that was the most filmed of all her shows. Yeah, it is ironic and frustrating, at least we have Yoko and Nice in quality ar least equal to Girlie Show and WTGT and even DWT, and these three were actually official DVDs. Craigypants 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtrover 261 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I would LOVE (obviously) the full, complete Paris performance. It was filmed so beautifully on 35mm. I'm sure it would be almost every fan's dream to have a copy of this somehow, shape or form. I saw her June 1, 1990 in Michigan the night we all sang Happy Birthday to here Dad after Holiday. I honestly and truly prefer the ponytail though I must say. I find it truly suited all the costumes better. The Yokohama show to me is too dark. I hardly see any lights and it seems like parts of the backdrop are missing at times. The Nice show is better in all aspects but I actually find the Barcelona show to be the best all of 3 personally. They all pale in comparison to the Truth or Dare (Bercy) footage however. Ponytail or not, I want it! Although, it's 99.9% of a chance we'll never see the rest of it. BringUrLUV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTSP 227 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I want the Paris shows for the selfish fact that i was there two nights with my mum It's like a family film for me hahah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kesiak 3,036 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 On 8/27/2018 at 8:07 PM, kesiak said: People keep repeating this (in relation to Re-Invention Tour as well) but it makes absolutely no sense. Firstly, everyone would be getting paid for their time regardless (might as well shoot everything in that case). Secondly, you don't know exactly what you're going to use while making a movie (documentary especially) - when they were doing the Paris shows there was no way to know what actual footage is going to fit into the final movie and what performances would suit the story arch. On 8/27/2018 at 8:41 PM, poserdemadonna said: Exactly. I strongly believe Alek filmed both nights in full. I guess I have to eat my words as it appears that Alek didn't film the entire Paris shows in the end: he talks about it in this Q&A (around 23:30 mark). I guess that answers the question - we'll never get a full Paris show. BringUrLUV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat-Fan 1,168 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 47 minutes ago, kesiak said: I guess I have to eat my words as it appears that Alek didn't film the entire Paris shows in the end: he talks about it in this Q&A (around 23:30 mark). I guess that answers the question - we'll never get a full Paris show. I never thought we would. But there were other shows filmed in full Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poserdemadonna 1,630 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 3 hours ago, kesiak said: I guess I have to eat my words as it appears that Alek didn't film the entire Paris shows in the end: he talks about it in this Q&A (around 23:30 mark). I guess that answers the question - we'll never get a full Paris show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymad 10,385 Posted August 31, 2018 Author Share Posted August 31, 2018 53 minutes ago, poserdemadonna said: I guess he did say that. But the line producer, she said they DID film the shows in its entirety. I want to believe HEERRRRRR just like, help us out girl. Madonna- The Blond Ambition Tour 1990- Unseen and Un-Cut. I can see it now. Because it’s been unseen :( BringUrLUV and CharlesApollon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighter 28,798 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 5 hours ago, kesiak said: I guess I have to eat my words as it appears that Alek didn't film the entire Paris shows in the end: he talks about it in this Q&A (around 23:30 mark). I guess that answers the question - we'll never get a full Paris show. That's so awful to learn.... but it's kinda expected. She hasn't put much effort to archive the tours. And Alek thinks the "HBO" compares in any way? ekk. If one portion of what the Line Producer said is not accurate then I won't get my hopes up about those Japan shows being actually filmed, cos it always sounded too good to be true. It might be that the only thing we'll ever get is what's already on the documentary. Thanks for posting that Q&A. kesiak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilpray 2,387 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Oh this is really sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighter 28,798 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 At least we could always get Like A Prayer and Hanky Panky in HD some day devilpray and kesiak 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat-Fan 1,168 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 At least we have Yoko and Nice, they are no Paris but very enjoyable and show both earlyband late part of the tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymad 10,385 Posted August 31, 2018 Author Share Posted August 31, 2018 TBH I really just want Express Yourself and Causing A Commotion in full. Child we all know THAT was filmed. Fighter, devilpray, blondboi559 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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