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And Guy continues to be beyond clueless... retweeting that Madonna has a US #1 album when the Billboard 200 uses the sales + streaming chart...

Billboard will continue to publish a pure album sales chart, called Top Album Sales, that maintains the traditional Billboard 200 methodology, based exclusively on SoundScan's sales data.

 

She will be #1 on the Billboard Top Album Sales chart. So Guy is not wrong when he says M has a US #1 album, albeit a #1 sales album. As far as I'm concerned, the Top Album Sales chart matters more than the new Billboard 200 that includes free streaming. :)

 

I'm sure that Guy would agree from a business perspective. Rebel Heart outsold the Empire ST in terms of units sold. And if the album sales chart were based on the total sales ($$$) generated instead of units sold, RH's $$$ sales would exceed far more than that of the Empire ST. This is based on the sales of 3 RH editions. The standard edition [$9.95 last week and currently $11.88 on Amazon] alone has a slightly higher price than the Empire ST [$9.00 on Amazon]. The Deluxe version [$14.95 last week and currently $15.88 on Amazon] is priced at least 1 1/2 times more than the Empire ST. And the Super Deluxe [$22.98 last week and currently $27.48 on Amazon] is priced 3 times more than the Empire ST. Not to mention the RH vinyl which costs $35.98.

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She's #2 on BB 200 (Empire 130K vs. RH 121K) and #1 on Top Album Sales (RH 116K vs. Empire 110K). 10,000 of the 116K were from the ticket bundles. 

 

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6502441/empire-soundtrack-number-one-madonna-number-two?utm_source=twitter

...Traditional album sales comprise 84 percent of Empire's first week, equating to 110,000 copies sold. That places the album at No. 2 on the Top Album Sales chart, which ranks titles by pure album sales. It lands behind the also-arriving Rebel Heart, which sold 116,000 copies (96 percent of its overall unit total) and is Madonna's sixth No. 1 on the Nielsen-driven Top Album Sales tally (its chart history dates back to May of 1991, when Billboard began using Nielsen's point-of-sale data).

 

Comparably, Madonna's last studio set, 2012's MDNA, started with 359,000 copies sold. Sources estimated that about 180,000 of those sales were generated by a concert ticket/album bundle offered with U.S. dates of Madonna's then-upcoming MDNA Tour. (Many acts have moved albums this way, including Cher,Austin Mahone and Bon Jovi.)

 

Madonna employed the concert ticket/album bundle offer again for Rebel Heart, but with a twist. Unlike the MDNA tour -- which saw all its U.S. dates on sale before the MDNA album was released, thus helping first-week sales -- only a handful of the Rebel Heart tour dates are on sale. Thus, sources say the Rebel Heart concert ticket/album offer has so far spurred less than 10,000 in sales. (The rest of the Rebel Heart tour dates go on sale over the next two weeks.)

 

It's also probably not incredibly helpful that the entirety of Rebel Heart, at least in demo form, leaked to the Internet in December. Then, in early February, what appeared to be the full mastered album turned up on the Web. Certainly, neither event helped the sales picture for Rebel Heart.

 

Although Rebel Heart debuts with more albums sold than Empire, it fell behind the soundtrack when it came to streaming and track equivalent album units -- so it ended up at No. 2 on the overall Billboard 200 chart.

 

Empire earned 17,000 units from track equivalent albums (thanks to the strong performance of the set's multiple Billboard Hot 100 hit singles like "You're So Beautiful" and "Conqueror"), while it tallied another 3,000 units from streaming equivalent albums.

 

Also helping matters: During release week, Empire's Jussie Smollett performed on TV's The Ellen DeGeneres Show (March 9) and on Fox's American Idol three days later (joined by fellow cast member Yazz).

 

Comparably, Rebel Heart's track equivalent album units totaled just over 4,000 (the set has yet to land a hit single on the Billboard Hot 100) and another 1,000 units in streaming equivalent albums.

 

Madonna did not perform on U.S. TV during release week, though she did a series of sit-down interviews with multiple news outlets, including a much-publicized 90-minute chat with Howard Stern.

 

Interestingly, Rebel Heart is Madonna's first studio album not to debut at No. 1 on the Billboard 200 since 1998, when another red-hot soundtrack blocked the diva from the top: Titanic. Ray of Light settled for a No. 2 arrival on the chart dated March 21, 1998.

 

Titanic was so popular -- it spent 16 weeks at No. 1 -- that it also thwarted chart-topping debuts from Pearl Jam's Yield and George Strait's One Step at a Time: both debuted at No. 2.

 

Back in the present day, it appears that Madonna herself is a fan of Empire: on March 17, the diva announced that the show's Terrence Howard would star in her new music video for Rebel Heart's second single, "Ghosttown."

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Billboard will continue to publish a pure album sales chart, called Top Album Sales, that maintains the traditional Billboard 200 methodology, based exclusively on SoundScan's sales data. She will be #1 on the Billboard Top Album Sales chart. So Guy is not wrong when he says M has a US #1 album, albeit a #1 sales album. As far as I'm concerned, the Top Album Sales chart matters more than the new Billboard 200 that includes free streaming. :) I'm sure that Guy would agree from a business perspective. Rebel Heart outsold the Empire ST in terms of units sold. And if the album sales chart were based on the total sales ($$$) generated instead of units sold, RH's $$$ sales would exceed far more than that of the Empire ST. This is based on the sales of 3 RH editions. The standard edition [$9.95 last week and currently $11.88 on Amazon] alone has a slightly higher price than the Empire ST [$9.00 on Amazon]. The Deluxe version [$14.95 last week and currently $15.88 on Amazon] is priced at least 1 1/2 times more than the Empire ST. And the Super Deluxe [$22.98 last week and currently $27.48 on Amazon] is priced 3 times more than the Empire ST. Not to mention the RH vinyl which costs $35.98.

Glad they will still publish sales chart. But this new system is such a joke!
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Not really into Terrance Howard. Hope his role in minimal

 

Actor Terrence Howard, who starred in Dead Presidents and Mr. Holland’s Opus and is currently the star of Empire, will be seen up front and centre in Madonna’s new music video Ghosttown, Noise11 reports.

 

Howard once had had his own album Shine Though It in 2006. It reached no. 31 on America’s Billboard chart. Howard plays record company mogul Lucious Lyon in the hit drama Empire. His character is a former drug dealer turned hip hop mogul and the CEO of Empire Entertainment.

 

Madonna is making her new video with Howard this week in Los Angeles, while she is in town for a week of guest spots on The Ellen Degeneres show.

 

The video is being directed Jonas Äkerlund, who also directed Ray Of Light, Music, American Life and Jump.

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Howard is the worst actor like ever. so trashy and amateourish .. did anyone see him on the oscars?? LOL 

 

he is so fake. and that show is so overrated. it is only popular cause of all black cast. but the fact is the show is garbage and the actors are cringe worthy. trashy. that show is for wendy williams audience

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Howard is the worst actor like ever. so trashy and amateourish .. did anyone see him on the oscars?? LOL 

 

he is so fake. and that show is so overrated. it is only popular cause of all black cast. but the fact is the show is garbage and the actors are cringe worthy. trashy. that show is for wendy williams audience

Sounds promising... :)

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Seriously, I'm getting tired of Guy Oseary's constant bashing. He is not a magician, he has nothing to do with listeners streaming more Empire than RH. The whole world doesn't stop when Madonna puts a record out. It's called competition, like it or not.

 

Enjoy your warning. And btw, if you really can't tolerate other people's opinions I suggest you LEAVE. 

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