Bad Girl ( The honest vocal coach)

[Anapausis 5,913]

9 minutes ago, Erotico said:

Calling someone a puppet, "Kylie is only here because Georgina".... actually Georgina didn't mention Kylie and Georgina said she's herself a Madonna fan.... cmon be nice I know the meaning of the word "smart a**"....

Oh dear you're just being idiot...

Let's to the facts:

1) KYLIE HERSELF ADMITTED SHE WAS CONTROLED BY PWL, HENCE SHE STARTED TO GIVE HER OWN FLIGHTS SINCE RHYTHM OF LOVE. BY 1991 SHE WAS ADAMANT SHE NEEDED TO LEAVE THEM. (EDIT: AND SHE DID IT TO NEVER GO BACK, SHE'S NO STEPS OR SINITTA OR SONIA OR ANYONE ELSE FROM WATERMAN'S POOR LITTLE THINGS GROUP)

IF IT WEREN'T FOR TERRY BLAMEY SHE WOULD BE EVEN IN A WORSE STATE.

2) GEORGINA THIS, GEORGINA THAT... I HATE GEORGINA, I DON'T HATE KYLIE, WHAT'S THE PART OF IT YOU DON'T GET?

3) AND OF COURSE YOU KNOW THE MEANING OF "BEING A SMART A$$," YOU HAVE JUST DEMONSTRATED ME THAT RN.

Feel free to put me on your block list because I ain't even giving myself the job of doing such a stupid thing.

 

[BuggedOut 4,121]

21 minutes ago, Erotico said:

I mean seriously all these Kylie hate? Kylie has had another number 1 album in the Uk a couple of weeks ago and anyone who saw her live can say she is an amazing singer (don't judge if your never attended her shows and don't be offensive), Plus Kylie has always supported Madonna and showed interest in making a duet so I don't get this jealousy...

 

This is a Madonna forum.

Disliking an Olsen Twin is not jealousy.

Shes ok. Shes average. That’s just some peoples opinions. Some people think that about Madonna. This is a Madonna forum. Just because Kylie likes Madonna doesn’t mean we have to like a Kylie.

Again, Kylie is harmless enough, but she’s just very boring and I don’t love her voice. It gets her through and she’s had a great career! She doesn’t need people defending her on a Madonna forum, I can assure you.

[scion 3,123]

Kylie is an excellent live singer, and she is consistently good. I can count on one hand her bad vocal performances. 

However, this isn't a Kylie forum and I'd appreciate it if you would all kindly stop jabbering on about who is the better singer... A bunch of middle aged men acting like infants.

[rga98 379]

19 minutes ago, BuggedOut said:

This is a Madonna forum.

Disliking an Olsen Twin is not jealousy.

Shes ok. Shes average. That’s just some peoples opinions. Some people think that about Madonna. This is a Madonna forum. Just because Kylie likes Madonna doesn’t mean we have to like a Kylie.

Again, Kylie is harmless enough, but she’s just very boring and I don’t love her voice. It gets her through and she’s had a great career! She doesn’t need people defending her on a Madonna forum, I can assure you.

Oh here comes the fucking troll..."harmless enough" again 😴. You don't like her? That's ok. She's very far from boring though. That's just your irrelevant opinion. She would not need anyone defending her on a Madonna forum is people like you weren't constantly trying to discredit her. Please just block me. It's annoying having a troll reacting to all my posts. 

[BuggedOut 4,121]

44 minutes ago, rga98 said:

Oh here comes the fucking troll..."harmless enough" again 😴. You don't like her? That's ok. She's very far from boring though. That's just your irrelevant opinion. She would not need anyone defending her on a Madonna forum is people like you weren't constantly trying to discredit her. Please just block me. It's annoying having a troll reacting to all my posts. 

So now only trolls don’t care for Kylie Minogue?

A Madonna forum might not be the place for you if you don’t want to see people who don’t love and gush over Kylie Minogue.

Not everyone who isn’t a big fan of Kylie or her voice are haters and/or trolls.

[Jackie 8,072]

Let's all take it down a notch - you can love/hate anyone - it is all about preference. We can all have an opinion, but keep it reasonable. 

[rga98 379]

48 minutes ago, BuggedOut said:

So now only trolls don’t care for Kylie Minogue?

A Madonna forum might not be the place for you if you don’t want to see people who don’t love and gush over Kylie Minogue.

Not everyone who isn’t a big fan of Kylie or her voice are haters and/or trolls.

Again. For the last time. It's absolutely ok that you don't like Kylie. I respect that. Not everyone can like Kylie or Madonna or anyone. But the "harmless enough" and "very boring" comments are the thing that bugs me and don't try to act like you make those with good intentions. You're dissing her. I have bad opinions on MANY artists but this is a Madonna forum so I don't feel the need to out them and create drama. Because, as much as you don't like Kylie there's manny people in here who do and you know that damn well. This is about the vocal coach thing so Kylie shouldn't even be mentioned to begin with.

[Lorx 344]

Georgina is extremely likable to me; I've watched many of her reactions, and I enjoy her videos. She's a very nice person. However, she isn't as skilled and knowledgeable as you may think.

She's neither a sound engineer nor a highly accomplished voice teacher.

The method she teaches, heavily influenced by EVT (Estill Voice Training), is based on scientific models that align more with 19th-century science than contemporary scientific principles. Furthermore, her method neglects the rich tradition of Italian bel canto, which has always emphasized the importance of breath control, vocal attacks and cultivating an "inner smile" for vocal development. It's not a terrible method, but it isn't the best one either. Her opinions are ok, but not perfect. 

And she's not a sound engineer; she doesn't notice some of the subtleties, otherwise she wouldn't have said this.

With careful listening or by watching videos with superior audio quality, it becomes apparent that Madonna isn't lip-syncing in these instances. Instead, she appears to be using a pre-recorded voice that, at certain points, reaches the same volume as her live singing or even a higher volume. It blends seamlessly, but at times, it almost overshadows her live vocals.

[True Blue 84 1,830]

She has now uploaded the Snl bad girl and reacted to that one and saying she came to the conclusion that the celebration tour version was live singing to a pre-recorded vocal track..

 

Here is the new video 

 

I kinda hate the vocal coach's voice tbh 

 

[scion 3,123]

I sent her a video of one of the Antwerp shows where she even messed up the lyrics... She seemed receptive to it. I like Georgina she's obviously s nice person, but that 'shannnellllle' thing gets on my nerves a bit 🤣

[Jackie 8,072]

It's actually really hard now to judge a live vocal - as we know it's often blended with a backing track - unless it's obviously. not.

I don't think Bad Girl has a backing track - I think that was one is all live - and it's great to finally hear Madonna sing in her natural lower key.

[Kae-Leah Williamson 222]

I'm far from a vocal expert, but I do enjoy listening to Georgina's opinions. She seems like a nice person and even when she's being critical, she tries not be mean-spirited. 

[Donna 16,443]

2 hours ago, Jackie said:

It's actually really hard now to judge a live vocal - as we know it's often blended with a backing track - unless it's obviously. not.

I don't think Bad Girl has a backing track - I think that was one is all live - and it's great to finally hear Madonna sing in her natural lower key.

While I agree she sings it live, I do believe it's supported by a backing track.  But it's far more subtle than some other songs that having backing tracks. It's quite possible that she recorded a live take while rehearsing, and uses that to sing along with. 

[fmportela 922]

You can clearly hear in all the recordings we've got so far that she's singing live to a backtrack. On Bad Girl, it sounds to me like it's the album vocals pitched down in the background. 

[missberic 764]

6 hours ago, fmportela said:

You can clearly hear in all the recordings we've got so far that she's singing live to a backtrack. On Bad Girl, it sounds to me like it's the album vocals pitched down in the background. 

100%

[mirtillo 1,841]

Georgina who?

[Blue Jean 15,254]

On 10/23/2023 at 7:35 AM, scion said:

It's entirely live and I've commented on Facebook with a video of last night where M got the lyrics wrong in the first verse.

I’m Copenhagen she was still drinking water when the singing started 

[Blue Jean 15,254]

On 10/25/2023 at 8:05 AM, Jackie said:

It's actually really hard now to judge a live vocal - as we know it's often blended with a backing track - unless it's obviously. not.

I don't think Bad Girl has a backing track - I think that was one is all live - and it's great to finally hear Madonna sing in her natural lower key.

See above 

[Jackie 8,072]

16 minutes ago, Blue Jean said:

See above 

lol ok - I take back my comments lol - 

[True Blue 84 1,830]

1 hour ago, Blue Jean said:

I’m Copenhagen she was still drinking water when the singing started 

" when the backing track started" 

I fixed that for you 🥰

[True Blue 84 1,830]

1 hour ago, Jackie said:

lol ok - I take back my comments lol - 

It's live with a backing track, at the water bottle incident the backing track started playing when she was still drinking, but once she started singing on top of it you could clearly hear her vocals come in...

[Jackie 8,072]

Looking at the footage - It's all sung over a loud backing track - different videos' you can hear different parts - watching a different video you can hear it's live as you can hear how flat she is some parts - while in another video it's perfectly in tune, so just depends where you are listening.

[Blue Jean 15,254]

58 minutes ago, True Blue 84 said:

" when the backing track started" 

I fixed that for you 🥰

Were you several metres away from her at that show too? You should have come and said hello.

[Blue Jean 15,254]

59 minutes ago, True Blue 84 said:

It's live with a backing track, at the water bottle incident the backing track started playing when she was still drinking, but once she started singing on top of it you could clearly hear her vocals come in...

The backing track was clearly the dominant sound.

Having said that there are moments in the song on clips where you can clearly hear her live voice. Particularly toward the end of the song.

[Blue Jean 15,254]

9 minutes ago, Jackie said:

Looking at the footage - I think BG is lip synched for everythign but the chorus - I think that's the only live part of it.

I haven’t analyzed videos but going by what I saw at the shows I get the impression the levels of the backing track vs. live vocals varies from show to show.