The Celebration Tour (Spoilers)

[Blue Jean 15,264]

2 minutes ago, Sultrysully said:

Madonn  definitely has danced more styles than Janet over the years.  Janet does one kind of dancing really.  

Yeah, Michael’s 

[Redha DBL 7,367]

What is "The Wicked" everyone is talking about ? I've been lookin up on the net and all i could find was an obscure horror movie from 2012 so i guess it's not that !

[Sultrysully 2,867]

22 minutes ago, Blue Jean said:

Yeah, Michael’s 

I think of Madonna's technical dancing too like Flamenco in the WHO's that Girl concert, Waltzes in Evita, or the dancing in A League of Their Own.  Madonna putting yoga into her routines.  Cartwheels on grandstands.  Etc. Etc... 

[scallywally 1,122]

46 minutes ago, Redha DBL said:

What is "The Wicked" everyone is talking about ? I've been lookin up on the net and all i could find was an obscure horror movie from 2012 so i guess it's not that !

https://x.com/FilmUpdates/status/1756827047392116739?s=20

[Blue Jean 15,264]

55 minutes ago, Redha DBL said:

What is "The Wicked" everyone is talking about ? I've been lookin up on the net and all i could find was an obscure horror movie from 2012 so i guess it's not that !

You have never heard of Wicked?

[Sheridan1980 1,104]

13 hours ago, Burning Up 4 Madonna said:

I think you might be making my point although Madonna is not limited to one style of dancing. Tina on the other hand has been doing  these same dances with little change ever over the years.

Just like Beyoncé who always do the same moves

[Redha DBL 7,367]

1 hour ago, Blue Jean said:

You have never heard of Wicked?

No, never. I live in France, maybe that's why.

Edit : i've just watched the trailer. So it's a movie with Ariana Grande. Well, as i said, it's not really being discussed yet in France. It takes a time to be a trend from the US to France. 

[Redha DBL 7,367]

17 minutes ago, Sheridan1980 said:

Just like Beyoncé who always do the same moves

I'm not sure it's really fair to make such short cuts. I'm no Beyonce expert but i'm sure if i dig deeply though all the archives of her performances during her 25 years of career i will see several dance styles. It's like if a non Madonna fan say "Madonna's dancing is always the same, cowboy, disco and mimming sex". Very reductive. As for Tina, Madonna, Janet and a few other, Beyonce is a great performer. Sure Madonna is our fav and we tend to see her as better than any other female performers, but the comparison game is not really relevent in my opinion. 

[Sheridan1980 1,104]

51 minutes ago, Redha DBL said:

I'm not sure it's really fair to make such short cuts. I'm no Beyonce expert but i'm sure if i dig deeply though all the archives of her performances during her 25 years of career i will see several dance styles. It's like if a non Madonna fan say "Madonna's dancing is always the same, cowboy, disco and mimming sex". Very reductive. As for Tina, Madonna, Janet and a few other, Beyonce is a great performer. Sure Madonna is our fav and we tend to see her as better than any other female performers, but the comparison game is not really relevent in my opinion. 

A former friend of mine who is a dancer and knows very well Madonnna and Beyonce's performances told me that one day. I assume she knew what she was talking about. 

[Blue Jean 15,264]

1 hour ago, Redha DBL said:

No, never. I live in France, maybe that's why.

Edit : i've just watched the trailer. So it's a movie with Ariana Grande. Well, as i said, it's not really being discussed yet in France. It takes a time to be a trend from the US to France. 

It's one of the most successful and longest running musicals of all time, above Phantom of the Opera and Cats. I  just looked and its never been translated into French or performed in France so that may explain why you don't know of it. It's the story of The Wizard of Oz but centred around The Wicked Witch of the West who is actually not wicked at all. And yes, it's now been made into a movie.

[Redha DBL 7,367]

1 hour ago, Sheridan1980 said:

A former friend of mine who is a dancer and knows very well Madonnna and Beyonce's performances told me that one day. I assume she knew what she was talking about. 

It's still the opinion of a person, as professional as she can be, it doesn't make it a universal truth (if such thing do exist).

[Sheridan1980 1,104]

You're right, universal truth doesn't exist. All I can say is that each Madonna tour has its own dance moves. 

[Roland Barthes 5,850]

i've been told several times by professional dancers that you dance with your feet not your arms. That's the difference between someone really dancing which can be less spectacular and someone making moves. It also translates in the way they walk and the body language. Now check for yourself who dances and who moves.

[Andymad 10,394]

1 hour ago, Roland Barthes said:

i've been told several times by professional dancers that you dance with your feet not your arms. That's the difference between someone really dancing which can be less spectacular and someone making moves. It also translates in the way they walk and the body language. Now check for yourself who dances and who moves.

But what if you have no feet 

[WokeUpInMedellin 1,562]

4 hours ago, Redha DBL said:

No, never. I live in France, maybe that's why.

Edit : i've just watched the trailer. So it's a movie with Ariana Grande. Well, as i said, it's not really being discussed yet in France. It takes a time to be a trend from the US to France. 

It's the best live stage musical of all time!!! I've seen Wicked on Broadway probably about 10 times. I'm excited to see the film adaptation.

[Roland Barthes 5,850]

28 minutes ago, Andymad said:

But what if you have no feet 

You dance like Kylie.

[steady75 9,571]

Sure your feet move you around the stage but dance is about the expression made by the whole body. Otherwise wed just be Irish dancing. and nobody wants that to be sure to be sure. 

[stefo 6,413]

8 hours ago, Redha DBL said:

No, never. I live in France, maybe that's why.

Edit : i've just watched the trailer. So it's a movie with Ariana Grande. Well, as i said, it's not really being discussed yet in France. It takes a time to be a trend from the US to France. 

Yeah Wicked is one of the most famous musicals in the anglosaxon countries, but also here in Italy it's almost unknown, except by musical theatre fans, wich is not a massive genre, it's not part of our traditions in that way. I mean, we have some classics, we call it commedia musicale (Garinei e Giovannini are some of the most iconic writers) but it's very italian in the themes and in the sound, different from the Broadway or the West End productions.

West Side Story, Jesus Christ Superstar and maybe Hair are very famous also because of the movies; the only less succesful cinematic musicals commonly known in Italy are Cats and The Phantom of the Opera I'd say.

[Michael_Py 234]

Kinda like musicals but not in this thread. 😂 

returning to the Madonna dance on tour, I think Blond Ambition and MDNA tours are her peak regarding dancing. She was on fire! Its crazy to think that in one of them she had 32 and in the other 54!!!! Damn, I wanna keep having that stamina, muscles, abilities when im in my 50s.

Girl gone wild, Revolver, Gayl, open your heart, etc etc and closing a 2hour show with Celebration high energy dance. F*ck she is amazing! 

[Andymad 10,394]

3 hours ago, Roland Barthes said:

You dance like Kylie.

[Redha DBL 7,367]

1 hour ago, Michael_Py said:

Kinda like musicals but not in this thread. 😂 

returning to the Madonna dance on tour, I think Blond Ambition and MDNA tours are her peak regarding dancing. She was on fire! 

Don't forget WTG tour. She was rocking the stage like a champion for 2 hours !

[madgefan 10,152]

50 minutes ago, Redha DBL said:

Don't forget WTG tour. She was rocking the stage like a champion for 2 hours !

Madonna's concerts before Blond Ambition weren't longer than 1h 30-40m. I might be wrong though 

[scion 3,123]

2 hours ago, Redha DBL said:

Don't forget WTG tour. She was rocking the stage like a champion for 2 hours !

While BAT showed far more skill in choreography, WTG is the best she's ever moved in my opinion, raw, firey, full of energy and with serious stamina.

[sara94 2,221]

So the next show is tomorrow in St Paul. Its nice that she has 5 days off. 

[Burning Up 4 Madonna 1,019]

2 hours ago, madgefan said:

Madonna's concerts before Blond Ambition weren't longer than 1h 30-40m. I might be wrong though 

Looks like Drowned, Girly, and BAT were right around 1h 45 min