Popular Post deathproof 10,608 Posted August 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/20/2022 at 7:00 AM, Prayer said: VERY interesting (but very technical too) info about the album by Q4Music from the PopJustice forum: "Really boring bit of backend admin talk here, but I just had a peek at the metadata for the album, and saw that the ISRC codes for most of the remastered tracks were raised/allocated by Rhino/Warner last year, so the label seems to have had the product(s) in the works for longer than I would have thought. ISRC allocation is one of the last things that happens in the supply chain process, normally. The exceptions (from this 1-disc set) are Everybody and Hollywood, which were allocated in 2022. Generally this would indicate that tracks are a late addition to a project. (The Universal tracks just use their original ISRCs from their initial release years, UMG don't tend to allocate a new code every time something is remastered, just look at the Abba catalogue.) TL,DR - album's been on the cards for yonks, possibly even got delayed a bit, and two of the songs might not have originally been on it." --- "Prompted by an earlier post today, I've had a little nose around the ISRCs for the full 50-track Goliath to see if there was any other interesting things to be inferred from the allocation of these codes (which are basically little digital "barcodes" for each track which DSPs use to track plays and report sales to chart companies etc.) You can tell the year in which a code is generated/allocated from the code itself. US-RH1-21-02962 is the code for Holiday (7" Version) [2022 Remaster]. The US is obviously the country, RH1 is the code pertaining to the rights-holder, here it's Rhino (previously Madonna codes were US-WB1-xx-xxxx for Warner Bros, so this is an interesting development in itself, it shows that she's been handed over completely to the catalogue peeps and the admin is being treated accordingly.) The next two digits are the year. So these codes were generated before January 1, 2022. Generally, as an album is being entered into a label's catalogue management system, a code will be generated for each track (if one doesn't already exist) as they are entered. Consequently, most albums ever in existence, particularly pre-digital age ones, have a sequential sequence of codes that match the running order of the record. The same is true here... almost. There's clearly been some changes to the project before it was finalised. We can only guess what they were, but we can make good guesses. So, following US-RH1-21-02962 for "Holiday" the codes were generated, going up one each turn, all the way up to US-RH1-21-03001 for "Celebration", the final Warner-owned recording. (Universal and Sony supplied their own (mainly) original codes for Warner's metadata. Turn Up The Radio, Living For Love and Bitch I'm Madonna all have 2021 codes, presumably because they never had commercial releases prior to this.) Three further codes were generated in 2022, for Physical Attraction, Everybody and Hollywood, suggesting that these tracks were later additions to the project, in the case of Hollywood, more likely that another mix was originally going to feature. HOWEVER - there's a few missing from the 2021 sequence and we're left to try and figure out what they were: US-RH1-21-02965 - between Material Girl (02964) and Open Your Heart (02966). That's where Into the Groove sits on the track listing now but it already has its own code (02968) which seems to indicate it was originally intended to feature AFTER Open Your Heart and whatever US-RH1-21-02967 is, because it is missing also. I'm thinking 02965 must have been Angel. What other track falls between Material Girl and Open Your Heart in her sequence of Dance Chart #1's and ISN'T Into The Groove? Must have been. And the only thing 02967 could possibly be is Causing A Commotion, as it comes straight after Open Your Heart and prior to You Can Dance, where Into the Groove's code indicates it was originally meant to go. If - on any of the upcoming reissues/remasters - these two codes pop up, we shall know for certain. The only other missing codes come between USRH12102990 (American Life) and USRH12102993 (Nothing Fails). Obviously one of them must have been whatever mix they originally chose for Hollywood. The other one is a guess only, but as it's where the Sony-owned Britney track falls on the tracklist, I suspect whoever generated the codes accidentally generated an unnecessesary Rhino code for it as well (and perhaps they did the same thing for the Universal tracks as well, but it we'll never know because they all fall after the numeric sequence.) In a nutshell, it looks like the You Can Dance tracks were last minute additions and Causing a Commotion and Angel were sacrificed for them, and Into the Groove was originally going to be placed where the You Can Dance tracks are now, and after Causing a Commotion." This post should be pinned! And I am SHOCKED no one else has commented on this! Thank you for sharing @Prayer Its crazy to think that a previous version of FEL almost included Angel and CAC. NOW I wanna know what versions would have been included?!? 😱 Also, a 2021 release?! And, is anyone a friend of Rusty Eagan? Can someone interview him? I think he was on to something…. 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deathproof 10,608 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Why is my post hidden? Admins plz! @RUADJAI Anyways.., apologies to everyone here for me joining the party so late! 🎉 I was on vacation all of last week! My 6LP set arrived yesterday (Sunday) afternoon! I love it, it’s a great collection and celebration of Madonna’s dance achievements. I still have some gripes with the tracklisting (will go into this later), as well as the creative direction of the entire packaging (I’ll keep it brief 😜 ). But, The overall project makes me excited for what’s next!!!! Roy, rlittler81, Prayer and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalartist 6,480 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 My Madonna Dance playlist is loving Finally Enough Love, went from about 12 hours to almost 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madgefan 10,149 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Are the Japanese CDs digipacks or jewel cases? I can't figure it out from the LQ pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottyx 8,778 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, madgefan said: Are the Japanese CDs digipacks or jewel cases? I can't figure it out from the LQ pics. digipaks madgefan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaspar 28 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 I ordered from Dig! In the UK . Has said packing since Friday. Should I be worried. Anyone else in UK not received their 6 LP ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontTemptMe26 2,417 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Sampler was mailed today. I wonder what will be on it and how it will look :-) RUADJAI, MattyMads, Frank and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziploc 2,566 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 minute ago, DontTemptMe26 said: Sampler was mailed today. I wonder what will be on it and how it will look :-) Oh cool. Post some pics when it arrives. I need to know if I should be envious or not 🤣 Frank and RUADJAI 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prayer 14,367 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 If you're in the UK please buy the album to help her to get to #1. If you already bought it, please stream it this week on Spotify or Apple Music. Or, if you have a lot of money, buy more copies or buy it on digital on iTunes or Amazon too to give her one more sale. #2 is great but #1 would be amazing. The success of "Finally" is important to show Warner we're here for the album reissues. Frank, Roy, MattyMads and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaspar 28 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Tiago Lisboa Rodrigues said: They have 11 editions and are doing record store appearances all week long in the UK, lmao. She doesn't stand a chance. Well Steps are a national treasure. Even though I'd love Madge to get no1 I'd be happy for steps to reach the summit and Madge to get to no2 and perhaps the following week switch places so both get there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost 1,602 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 28 minutes ago, Jaspar said: I ordered from Dig! In the UK . Has said packing since Friday. Should I be worried. Anyone else in UK not received their 6 LP ? Exactly the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUADJAI 14,968 Posted August 22, 2022 Author Share Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/19/2022 at 5:26 AM, luckystar908 said: Nothing Fails (Tracy Young's Underground Radio Edit) is apparently an unreleased edit Should have stayed that way Enrico, survivalartist, TOpher and 6 others 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaspar 28 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Ghost said: Exactly the same. I did email on Fri they replied saying it's packing in warehouse and dispatching soon and that was Fri ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost 1,602 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, Jaspar said: I did email on Fri they replied saying it's packing in warehouse and dispatching soon and that was Fri ! The people who ordered from Madonna.com UK Shop haven't received theirs either.. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyMads 5,515 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Ghost said: The people who ordered from Madonna.com UK Shop haven't received theirs either.. :( I contacted them today and they said they would have information about shipment at the end of the week 😭😭😭 theglamorous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaspar 28 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, MattyMads said: I contacted them today and they said they would have information about shipment at the end of the week 😭😭😭 Even though it says packing still concerned. Im sure I read somewhere some people got their orders cancelled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyMads 5,515 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, Jaspar said: Even though it says packing still concerned. Im sure I read somewhere some people got their orders cancelled I said to them today does it mean that I could have it cancelled and he said if it’s paid there shouldn’t be a cancellations all orders are allocated, so hopefully we all be good 🤞🏻🤞🏻 I will be upset if does get cancelled theglamorous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUADJAI 14,968 Posted August 22, 2022 Author Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, deathproof said: This post should be pinned! And I am SHOCKED no one else has commented on this! Thank you for sharing @Prayer Its crazy to think that a previous version of FEL almost included Angel and CAC. NOW I wanna know what versions would have been included?!? 😱 Also, a 2021 release?! And, is anyone a friend of Rusty Eagan? Can someone interview him? I think he was on to something…. The only thing I would question is... If it was compiled in 2021, then I would say she had nothing to do with the selection of the songs. We got video of her in the studio in January... so if the songs were already chosen perhaps the 50 were chosen FOR HER and the 16 track was her personal selection. Hence the studio videos in January. The videos she posted do all seem to be playing the versions we ended up getting. And she also eludes that it's the first time she listening to all of them in a while. PlayPause, theglamorous and reinvented_0 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theglamorous 4,088 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 16 minutes ago, MattyMads said: I contacted them today and they said they would have information about shipment at the end of the week 😭😭😭 That's an absolute fucking joke right, terrible MattyMads 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theglamorous 4,088 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, RUADJAI said: The only thing I would question is... If it was compiled in 2021, then I would say she had nothing to do with the selection of the songs. We got video of her in the studio in January... so if the songs were already chosen perhaps the 50 were chosen FOR HER and the 16 track was her personal selection. Hence the studio videos in January. The videos she posted do all seem to be playing the versions we ended up getting. And she also eludes that it's the first time she listening to all of them in a while. I don't think she has half as much involvement in these projects as they like to make out, it's all smoke and mirrors reinvented_0, Harrdust, Enrico and 2 others 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prayer 14,367 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 16 minutes ago, RUADJAI said: The only thing I would question is... If it was compiled in 2021, then I would say she had nothing to do with the selection of the songs. We got video of her in the studio in January... so if the songs were already chosen perhaps the 50 were chosen FOR HER and the 16 track was her personal selection. Hence the studio videos in January. The videos she posted do all seem to be playing the versions we ended up getting. And she also eludes that it's the first time she listening to all of them in a while. Maybe Warner made and compiled a selection in 2021 but she got involved later (late 2021/early 2022). The studio videos in January were remastering the songs with Mike Dean, so the selection was done before that obviously. Enrico, RUADJAI, Frank and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayPause 2,684 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 19 hours ago, RUADJAI said: I love this remix of WIFLFAG, but I cannot think of dancing to it. Maybe getting tweaked out on coke and cleaning my bath tub with a toothbrush. Yup so many remixes on the second half reflect that side of dance music that doesn't make sense unless you're training or high or drunk. theglamorous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyMads 5,515 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 27 minutes ago, theglamorous said: That's an absolute fucking joke right, terrible It is a joke I wish I ordered from the US store now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayPause 2,684 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 21 minutes ago, RUADJAI said: The only thing I would question is... If it was compiled in 2021, then I would say she had nothing to do with the selection of the songs. We got video of her in the studio in January... so if the songs were already chosen perhaps the 50 were chosen FOR HER and the 16 track was her personal selection. Hence the studio videos in January. The videos she posted do all seem to be playing the versions we ended up getting. And she also eludes that it's the first time she listening to all of them in a while. 12 minutes ago, theglamorous said: I don't think she has half as much involvement in these projects as they like to make out, it's all smoke and mirrors We don't know anything about that. She was involved in these remixes in some way, at least already knew them for approval, for 40 years. Do I need to bring her live performances inspired by some of them? So playlist 50 edit remixes of her dance number ones, it's no big deal for a such a professional. They say "curated by Madonna"... We've all done more much more than that, why wouldn't she? Never forget she's her own producer too. Roy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregVsMatt 3,701 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 43 minutes ago, RUADJAI said: The only thing I would question is... If it was compiled in 2021, then I would say she had nothing to do with the selection of the songs. We got video of her in the studio in January... so if the songs were already chosen perhaps the 50 were chosen FOR HER and the 16 track was her personal selection. Hence the studio videos in January. The videos she posted do all seem to be playing the versions we ended up getting. And she also eludes that it's the first time she listening to all of them in a while. We also know M doesn't film every studio session or interaction when she is working on projects. The songs were her choices etc PlayPause, Roy and Frank 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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