Roland Barthes 5,850 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 How many shows in Detroit were shot ? During Over and Over you can see it is from two different nights because her eye makeup is pristine in the close ups and then on some shots you can see her eye shadow is heavier and leaking Or did they reshoot some tracks without the audience during the day in between nights after watching the reels from the first night ? Roy, Redha DBL, drunkby6 and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregVsMatt 3,701 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Interesting - never noticed that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madgefan 10,150 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 I've always wondered that too. She's clearly wearing different make-up during the whole thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redha DBL 7,349 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 3 hours ago, GregVsMatt said: Interesting - never noticed that! +1 ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Fortin 1,790 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 and she has a jacket at one point Roy, Rocco Comelon, GregVsMatt and 3 others 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rocco Comelon 5,257 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Tony Fortin said: It seems like they also shoot the concert without the audience. I remember Duran Duran Arena where they also shoot some scenes without audiences. Roy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drunkby6 515 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Maybe they shot the dress rehearsal. If I could go back in time to see one tour, this would've been the one. She was on fire! Gambler and Over and Over are so raw. Roy, wtg1987, bootboy31 and 4 others 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Frank 42,520 Posted April 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 27, 2022 So she's been doing it since the very beginning. And we still are surprised when she uses different shots from different shows in the latest tours recordings... XDDDD 50ft Queenie, Roy, Prayer and 7 others 5 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prayer 14,375 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 There are little video (and audio!) tricks to make the release perfect... as @Franksaid she's been doing this since the first tour. Make sense, since she wants to offer the best experience possible. I prefer it that way too. In "The Virgin Tour" there are close-ups clearly taken apart from the actual concert (she literally has the camera on her face). Plus, on the audio aspect, I'm sure there were tweaks here and there in post-production and mixing. If you listen to leaked audios or fan recordings, her voice is not that perfect all the time (and it was her first proper tour, also). Redha DBL, Roy and Frank 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITG 3,323 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Prince did the same and shot his on a soundstage. Prayer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel 915 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 the reason is simple: they shot both nights in Detroit 25th en 26th of May that’s why in some sences in Over and Over she has other make up BringUrLUV and LuckyBorderline 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drunkby6 515 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Frank said: So she's been doing it since the very beginning. And we still are surprised when she uses different shots from different shows in the latest tours recordings... XDDDD I don't think anyone was surprised, just interested. Shame they scrapped the performances of Angel, Borderline and Burning Up for the vhs release but if it sounded a bit weak it's understandable. This was back in the days before studio recordings were played over the live vocal to give a fuller sound. Still I guess that does mean that there's a chance they have the rehearsal footage of those three performances somewhere, maybe, hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Fortin 1,790 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 44 minutes ago, Rebel said: the reason is simple: they shot both nights in Detroit 25th en 26th of May that’s why in some sences in Over and Over she has other make up That's what I always thought from my videotape but now I don't know where the truth is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziploc 2,566 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 5 hours ago, drunkby6 said: Maybe they shot the dress rehearsal. If I could go back in time to see one tour, this would've been the one. She was on fire! Gambler and Over and Over are so raw. I love the Virgin tour so much. I bought it on vhs when it came out... before we even had a video player. The performance of Gambler is amazing DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT DETROIT!? madgefan, jemboy1973, drunkby6 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Fortin 1,790 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 M's magic and raw talent is in the Virgin tour.......from start to finish!!!!!! Full release is urgent Starchild 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Barthes 5,850 Posted April 27, 2022 Author Share Posted April 27, 2022 Thank you for your answers. Clearly some scenes were shot post prod with hand held cameras close to her on stage. We still don't have the answer for Borderline, Angel and Burning Up. My take : time constraint, due to technology or some stupid legality clause, as the same year Prince released the Purple Tour on two separate 60 minutes long VHS https://www.discogs.com/fr/master/452078-Prince-And-The-Revolution-Live?image=7891151.SW1hZ2U6MjQ0MDk1ODM%3D Tina Live, same year was also 55 minutes long only https://www.discogs.com/fr/release/5423041-Tina-Turner-Tina-Live-Private-Dancer-Tour/image/SW1hZ2U6Mzg4MjI1MTg= Same with U2 https://www.discogs.com/fr/master/357358-U2-Under-A-Blood-Red-Sky-U2-Live-At-Red-Rocks/image/SW1hZ2U6MTIwODIxMg== So they must have the whole Virgin tour filmed somewhere (maybe the missing tracks don't have post prod on them though). Prayer and drunkby6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
club78boy 3,353 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 watch her earrings during Over and Over also - some points she has a big cross and then it's gone in others! madgefan, Roland Barthes, heikeeduardo and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel 915 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 2 hours ago, club78boy said: watch her earrings during Over and Over also - some points she has a big cross and then it's gone in others! in the shots with the gorgeous make up she has the peace sign earring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scamper 1,998 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Roland Barthes said: Thank you for your answers. Clearly some scenes were shot post prod with hand held cameras close to her on stage. We still don't have the answer for Borderline, Angel and Burning Up. My take : time constraint, due to technology or some stupid legality clause, as the same year Prince released the Purple Tour on two separate 60 minutes long VHS Yeah, I remember reading on a book that at that time the concerts had that duration for legality clauses and things like that. The book said that that was the reason why the instrumental interludes were cut and with the songs they decided "Angel" and "Borderline" because they were the weakest songs (she only sang half of "Borderline") and "Burning Up" because they were afraid that people find it too hot and they wanted a VHS for all publics. Maybe it was just a theory but I think it could be possible. Roland Barthes, Prayer, jemboy1973 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drunkby6 515 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Watching the three cut performances on youtube is so gutting, I really want them in better quality. Is this really the best they exist in? realityisalways 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drunkby6 515 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqeOX4jj4qw I miss how squeaky she used to be Bjonkers and Starchild 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ma(x) 17,003 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 The first thing Warner should do is publish the Virgin tour on blu ray, I don't expect the full version because as usual it would be too much, but the VHS / Laserdisc version first restored well and then brought to HD, as is done for many concerts by other singers and also for many movie ( I absolutely do not hope for it but it would be even now , just see what is released by the record companies of other artists ). It is truly shameful that there is little or nothing in blu ray, and that many tours released on VHS and later on DVD have never had the treatment they deserve.The sure thing is that if they have to release blu ray with the You tube fake HD quality then they can also avoid it. The Virgin Tour is simply HISTORY and it's time for fans to have what they have been wanting for years. heikeeduardo, Starchild, drunkby6 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtg1987 10,169 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 I bet she cringes at this tour but imo it’s way better than the Madame X tour from a sound/live production perspective. I really can’t see her “curating “ this if we ever get it in full or HD 🙄😭 Homogenic79 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel 915 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 It will never gonna happened a Blu ray release for the Virgin Tour i gave up hope many years ago. we can only dream. we have to deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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