Erotica + Boxing: Why?

[luis-rj 1,105]

Does anyone know or can explain the reason why the Erotica performances have a connection with boxing? We see that in both performances: The Girlie Show and The Celebration Tour.... Any light on this? 

[wtg1987 10,188]

i think boxers are very erotic and sexy - thats all i can think of ...

[Rebel Hugo 17,081]

There was a thread on this forum trying to explain the relationship between that song and boxing, I think 2 comments here explains it very well!

 

 

[Alibaba 1,526]

I think it represents that this is how she experienced the era from Justify My Love to Erotica. Boxing with society. Throwing punches. Calculating her next move. After Human Nature she throws it all into the fire, and moves onto spiritual awakening. 

[stickersweeter 192]

I didn't notice there was a deeper meaning other than referencing Hard Candy/ Sticky & Sweet Tour/ M-Dolla but linking it to the struggle and Girlie Show... oh boy, now I love that performance even more haha 

Edited October 16, 2023 by stickersweeter (see edit history)

[androiduser 2,490]

there was also the boxing puppet in the Erotica video

[Jaawsshhh 538]

I took it as a reference to The Girlie Show opening along with Hard Candy.

[stefo 6,500]

Well I suppose boxers are the epitome of testosterone. Then Erotica is a BDSM manifesto, so some kind of brutality and the idea of strenght and power are part of the imaginary. I think it fits the mood, she used it already in the GS. She was also referring to the Hard Candy image, I agree (and she is seeing a boxer at the moment, if I'm not wrong ).

Anyway, that's one of the main qualities of this show, the fluid and creative way in wich she's able to spread all the signs and the memories.

[Leandro Gomes 276]

4 hours ago, Alibaba said:

I think it represents that this is how she experienced the era from Justify My Love to Erotica. Boxing with society. Throwing punches. Calculating her next move. After Human Nature she throws it all into the fire, and moves onto spiritual awakening. 

I couldn't agree more!

[Markdonna 692]

I think the boxing imagery is also meant to reflect the battle that many young gay men have with themselves over their sexuality.  I know I did this in spades (beating myself up) all the late 80s and early 90s…

[Enrico 15,857]

Also she is now f***ing a boxer 

[TheGoth 504]

She remains a big fan of Mohammed Ali as well, so there could be that. And then the Tyson involvement with Iconic and that video's imagery is quite brutal too.

[rlittler81 1,602]

Pleasure and pain.

[Ayham 5,510]

Simply because her new man is a boxer… 😂😂😂

[luluthecat 1,118]

I just assumed it was because she's been shagging a boxer recently. 

[EgoRod 5,490]

I think for her that's also an image of raw masculinity at least a social perception of being manly. And she always plays a lot with the dichotomy of genders and social roles. Express Yourself video when she is suited and powerful but then sensual and feline. In Hard Candy with the boxing attire. Die Another Day even the Cowgirl theme for Music and the Soldier for AL, they are representing roles that we tend to pair with men.

In the GS in particular they are in Erotica and you see these girls dancing on the right with each other really physical and the guys boxing on the left. During a song that talks about letting yourself go and allow to encounter pleasure. Even if you face 'a little bit of pain'. It's tenderness on the feminine side vs fighting on the masculine side.

Even if the allegory is linked with S&M it might be reflect about abandoning societal roles and enjoy yourself . Enjoy a healthy sexual life doing what you please.

[Honey Little 4,074]

39 minutes ago, EgoRod said:

I think for her that's also an image of raw masculinity at least a social perception of being manly. And she always plays a lot with the dichotomy of genders and social roles. Express Yourself video when she is suited and powerful but then sensual and feline. In Hard Candy with the boxing attire. Die Another Day even the Cowgirl theme for Music and the Soldier for AL, they are representing roles that we tend to pair with men.

In the GS in particular they are in Erotica and you see these girls dancing on the right with each other really physical and the guys boxing on the left. During a song that talks about letting yourself go and allow to encounter pleasure. Even if you face 'a little bit of pain'. It's tenderness on the feminine side vs fighting on the masculine side.

Even if the allegory is linked with S&M it might be reflect about abandoning societal roles and enjoy yourself . Enjoy a healthy sexual life doing what you please.

Beautifully said! Wow. Thank you.

[gst6662000 296]

13 hours ago, luis-rj said:

Does anyone know or can explain the reason why the Erotica performances have a connection with boxing? We see that in both performances: The Girlie Show and The Celebration Tour.... Any light on this? 

Omg I haven't made THAT CONNECTION...... SO ELATED!!!

[gst6662000 296]

I hope she would release an official version of this......rework

[wonderboy 1,890]

14 hours ago, luis-rj said:

Does anyone know or can explain the reason why the Erotica performances have a connection with boxing? We see that in both performances: The Girlie Show and The Celebration Tour.... Any light on this? 

BECAUSE LOVE HURTS

[gst6662000 296]

kids today will wonder the INTERNET MODEM DIAL TONE hahahahaha

[Blue Jean 15,450]

I always assumed it originated from the puppet in the video. Then she expanded on the theme in The Girlie Show.