Popular Post MattyMads 5,516 Posted February 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2023 I can't wait for tour rehearsals to start so that we can finally get away from talking about her face all the time Andreo, heikeeduardo, momosfantasy and 9 others 3 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jean 15,254 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 33 minutes ago, MattyMads said: I can't wait for tour rehearsals to start so that we can finally get away from talking about her face all the time I anticipate after opening night the entire world will be discussing her. And the haters will be louder than they have ever been. If this is how they react to a little speech in a coat we can only imagine how they will react to her show. Be prepared. heikeeduardo, Alm47, pawn_shop_blues and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongIslandTea 1,591 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 14 hours ago, Would You Like To Try said: I noticed that her new makeup artist needs to be removed from her sight.Who does it?Be cause i have seen her with less makeup and she looks better without that weird makeup And bring back the brows. momosfantasy and Would You Like To Try 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongIslandTea 1,591 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 3 hours ago, rgdlee said: Not sure if anybody has shared or mentioned, but here is Time’s take on Madonna at the Grammys: Madonna's Face and the Myth of Aging Gracefully https://time.com/6253977/madonna-face-grammys-2023/ I'm waiting for BBC to make a documentary, just like they way they did it back in 2012 when she expressed she hates hydrangeas. momosfantasy and Blue Jean 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymad 10,385 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Blue Jean said: And the haters will be louder than they have ever been Especially if she doesn’t perform Causing A Commotion Blue Jean, MattyMads and Would You Like To Try 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valinecode 291 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Haters will Fail I still believe in the goodness of humans She's old and you must love her heikeeduardo and momosfantasy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prayer 14,375 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Love this art: By: https://www.instagram.com/luart76/ Alfalfa_HampusFL, RebelHeart97, momosfantasy and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momosfantasy 947 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 6 hours ago, Edward I Longshanks said: Go join activism forum or a start a thread yourself on this site if you feel so strongly about the issue. I like Madonna 's music, I would prefer if we stopped bringing so much negativity into this place, people get enough of that on social media. My comment about pseudo intellectuals was not aimed specifically at you. Parroting the media and politicians means a slew of word salad that changes nothing. I have been a fan since the start of her career, I have heard all of it and more, its just noise at this point. Me not wanting to talk about the same topic over and over again does mean I would not love to see positive change. Not all of us are out on political crusades, some of us just like Madonna and her music believe it or not. I DO believe it! Same thing here. It's not like I come here to discuss politics. I'd MUCH rather be talking about how Erotica is the best album ever made, of all time! But when people want to spread toxic beliefs or prejudice (and that's not directed at you, per se), I feel like I should at least address it. I wouldn't say anything if people would stop making terrible, judgemental comments about this woman that I admire so much. The thing is, I don't need to join an "activism forum" or seek out people and places to discuss things like ageism or misogyny when it's literally right in front of my face in so many comments on this site. And that's what activism IS in many ways. It's recognizing these things as they're actually happening, and speaking out against it. Silence all too often equals approval, or at the very least complacence, and I absolutely refuse to allow anybody to think that I agree with or condone some of the virulently awful personal comments people make about her or about other board members. Remember, the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. 50ft Queenie, EgoRod and mikenmark 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momosfantasy 947 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 5 hours ago, Andymad said: Especially if she doesn’t perform Causing A Commotion Girl, I'd be there with a pitchfork! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Barthes 5,850 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 I don't know about you guys but i witnessed a change in the tide today, i saw people, non fans and media influencers, journalists and artists defending her and expressing their disgusted at the vicious way she has been treated and i'm talking about people i don't suspect to be closeted fans at all, the great thing is that they are influencers in culture. I think she's winning, her unapologetic post on Instagram, her defiance and fuck you attitude, some articles in serious press asking to leave her alone... haters gonna hate but they are being shamed now and since i'm talking about culture influencers it may soon be a trend for followers. People say they may not agree with what she does but they admire her defiance. I think it's just the beginning. Girl has made the world focus on her once again and, again, she's shaking the culture and conversation. She's not crying at home, her job is done. momosfantasy, 50ft Queenie, nito84bcn and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donna 16,455 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Prayer said: Love this art: By: https://www.instagram.com/luart76/ Yes, I do like as well. My take on this whole topic is that the media and some fans are embellishing how bad she looks. The picture the media is using, including in Pier Morgan's silly show, is altered to make her look worse. And as nasty as some have gotten, at least Madonna once again is creating a discussion (which she's always like doing), only giving her more publicity. Prayer, VogueMusic and momosfantasy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starchild 3,077 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 It's not quite a matter of misogyny or ageism. It's more a matter of taste, albeit personal. This woman articulated it well: https://www.tiktok.com/@dailyblastlive/video/7197921605694000426 What I like about TikTok, compared to a devout forum or YouTube, is that opinions are more objective. Would You Like To Try 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donna 16,455 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 33 minutes ago, Vas said: It's not quite a matter of misogyny or ageism. It's more a matter of taste, albeit personal. This woman articulated it well: https://www.tiktok.com/@dailyblastlive/video/7197921605694000426 What I like about TikTok, compared to a devout forum or YouTube, is that opinions are more objective. Yes, but you can't dismiss "misogyny" or "ageism" because a lot of what Madonna does and wear is completely acceptable if someone younger is doing or wearing it. I agree that for some it's personal taste, but that usually is based on one's idea of what someone should be doing at a certain age. People know she's in her 60's and some people can't fathom seeing someone their Grandma's age doing the same things, or dressing the same way that they are or their children are dressing or acting like. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what anyone thinks, because Madonna will keep doing what she wants and no doubt it will continue to make people feel uncomfortable. She's done this her whole entire career. She keeps people talking about her and whether it's good or bad, she still keeps a lot of people interested and buying tickets to her shows. And if she dropped a new album tomorrow, all those "fans" who jump on the band wagon, criticizing her will be snatching it up, only to find fault or dissect it to death, sucking all the joy out of the album. It's a never ending cycle! nito84bcn, momosfantasy and EgoRod 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redha DBL 7,349 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Maybe this could put an end to all this drama, here's a kinda close up video of M backstage at the Grammys and she looks stunning : https://www.instagram.com/reel/CoThpTEDi0n/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY= Robertthenurse, Frank and Andreo 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoLCL 5,073 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 27 minutes ago, Vas said: It's not quite a matter of misogyny or ageism. It's more a matter of taste, albeit personal. This woman articulated it well: https://www.tiktok.com/@dailyblastlive/video/7197921605694000426 What I like about TikTok, compared to a devout forum or YouTube, is that opinions are more objective. When people are so grossed out by her appearance that they wish she retire, die, go away, "age gracefully" etc it is ageism and misogyny. Plain and simple. A lot of people don't like the way Zac Efron looks after his cosmetic surgeries, but they don't wish those things on him. Prayer, Donna, Leandro Gomes and 6 others 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertthenurse 2,919 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 This is Madonna LITERALLY a few months ago. It is a close up. Same look. Please call it what it is. Don't say someone is objectively voicing their opinion on an adapted image taken at the Grammys. Even if it is not "adapted" they deliberately captured it in an unflattering moment. This moment is more flattering. So PLEASE, if you feel you still need to continue to analyze her face, be fair and use a fair image like the one below. Jackie, Frank, VogueMusic and 6 others 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donna 16,455 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 24 minutes ago, Robertthenurse said: This is Madonna LITERALLY a few months ago. It is a close up. Same look. Please call it what it is. Don't say someone is objectively voicing their opinion on an adapted image taken at the Grammys. Even if it is not "adapted" they deliberately captured it in an unflattering moment. This moment is more flattering. So PLEASE, if you feel you still need to continue to analyze her face, be fair and use a fair image like the one below. Very well said. She hasn't had anything done since this pic was taken, so it's weird how people (even some fans) are on this crusade to bash her looks or criticize whatever work she's had done to her face. Unfortunately, Madonna like anyone, suffers from unflattering shots of her, due to lighting and angles. I think a lot of people are bothered by the whole ensemble, even with this pic. No 65 year old woman dresses the way she does, wears her hair the way she does, etc. Though, she's in the entertainment world, so it's expected to see entertainers who are especially interested in glamor and/or looking different from everyone else to find ways to style their hair wildly and dress wild or provocative. She's such a high profile star still, that people tend to comment on her before anyone else such as Belinda Carlisle (who has had a lot of work done since she was in her late 20's). And while there are some male celebrities who get criticism for the work has been done to them, but they don't get criticized consistently as Madonna. Every few months, it seems to be a conversation with Madonna, but I don't see large debates and discussions about Tom Cruise's work done to his face. So yeah, pardon me if I call "misogyny." I know some people bring up Pete Burns and Mickey Rourke, but they still don't get as much attention and hate as Madonna gets. Would You Like To Try, momosfantasy, Robertthenurse and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redha DBL 7,349 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 I would add that lately her sense of style is really stunning. She's finally experimenting again with her looks and making big changes (pink hair, bleached eyebrows, auburn hair, hairdo like at the Sex launch/grammys etc....) After years of long blond locks it is really refreshing. Her 1997 Mugler outfit was absolutely stunning on her, anyway 90's fashion suits her like a glove. I really don't understand the hate about the look cause it's one of my fav in years. My only wish now would be to have a few new tracks to go with her amazing looks. nito84bcn, VogueMusic, Donna and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teammadonna 395 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Robertthenurse said: This is Madonna LITERALLY a few months ago. It is a close up. Same look. Please call it what it is. Don't say someone is objectively voicing their opinion on an adapted image taken at the Grammys. Even if it is not "adapted" they deliberately captured it in an unflattering moment. This moment is more flattering. So PLEASE, if you feel you still need to continue to analyze her face, be fair and use a fair image like the one below. Thank you! Finally a rational fan with a sharp eye appeared! These photos are from Madonna's instagram stories. And look at her face!! It's literally pictures taken just two month ago! Look at Madonna's face! Her face is perfect like the face of a goddess! She has such a perfect face that she looks almost the same age as her daughter. More importantly, Madonna had the same hairstyle as at the Grammy Awards! JUST two month ago! She had no time do something done her face! And look at this photos, which is maliciously manipulated by the misogynistic media. This is why you shouldn't believe in misogynistic media. Edited February 11, 2023 by teammadonna (see edit history) BuggedOut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jean 15,254 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 I don’t know if it’s manipulated. It could just be harsher lighting and unflattering facial expressions. They seemed to use a shot where she was screwing her face up a lot which is cruel. Remember when Beyoncé performed at the Super Bowl and all those ugly pics came out. Then her team had them all removed? Those were back in the days where Beyoncé was absolutely flawless too. It’s funny there are images from Madonna’s Grammy appearance where she looked really good. Would You Like To Try and nito84bcn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelheart29 329 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 that last pic is only 968x638 not the full size of the pic. I also think her hairstyle was harsh It's her face she can do what she wants nobody can stop her. i'm not hating on her. just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertthenurse 2,919 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 I also THINK some people really need to move on from this sad, pathetic topic. It's literally cringe worthy at this point. Like seriously, for days and days and days and days. Can we fkn talk about the fashion? ANYTHING. Please. 🤣🙏🥴😬🙃🤷 Would You Like To Try, heikeeduardo, Roland Barthes and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie 8,075 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 I agree - time to move on - she looks amazing, she's still alive, pushing boundaries and is about to serve it on a world tour! NEXT! pawn_shop_blues, Frank, Prayer and 5 others 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momosfantasy 947 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 8 hours ago, Roland Barthes said: I don't know about you guys but i witnessed a change in the tide today, i saw people, non fans and media influencers, journalists and artists defending her and expressing their disgusted at the vicious way she has been treated and i'm talking about people i don't suspect to be closeted fans at all, the great thing is that they are influencers in culture. I think she's winning, her unapologetic post on Instagram, her defiance and fuck you attitude, some articles in serious press asking to leave her alone... haters gonna hate but they are being shamed now and since i'm talking about culture influencers it may soon be a trend for followers. People say they may not agree with what she does but they admire her defiance. I think it's just the beginning. Girl has made the world focus on her once again and, again, she's shaking the culture and conversation. She's not crying at home, her job is done. That's awesome! I mean, I have faith in the basic goodness of humanity at the end of the day, but damn. The fact that there's a slapback now in her favor warms my heart and moistens my bussy. And I just realized that in all this time, I haven't even had a chance to say that I fucking LOVED the outfit, and the hair is so great! I'm so glad she's been changing the hair again like she used to do every few months. The pink was great, but I am in love with her as a redhead! One last thing, and I promise I'm not trying to beat a dead horse with the face talk, but I wonder if a lot of the reaction is because of her missing eyebrows? Someone told me that it's a trend to do the no eyebrow thing (I took them at their word, I am so removed from knowing anything about current fashion trends, lol). I think it can be a little jarring, because we are used to people having eyebrows, you know? Lol. But I look at it like Dita's good tooth, or the Bedtime Stories nose & belly button rings, or the grills. It's just another unique look from a chameleon of a performer, and I love it! Her visuals have always been such a huge part of her, and I'm just really fucking proud to be a Madonna fan, you know? What a fucking incredible artist and woman. VogueMusic and Jackie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Would You Like To Try 8,346 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Blue Jean said: I don’t know if it’s manipulated. It could just be harsher lighting and unflattering facial expressions. They seemed to use a shot where she was screwing her face up a lot which is cruel. Remember when Beyoncé performed at the Super Bowl and all those ugly pics came out. Then her team had them all removed? Those were back in the days where Beyoncé was absolutely flawless too. It’s funny there are images from Madonna’s Grammy appearance where she looked really good. There are some photos of confessions like in tour when her expressions make her look weird,again it's the face that was taken at the wrong moment by a prankist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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