The Celebration Tour (No Spoilers)

[Neil 463]

6 minutes ago, Pedro Beltran said:

Yeah I saw that, I’ll post the official one they release today, this has been fantastic and anxious times to be a Mexican fan, she’s in the timeline of everyone young and older, the demand is very high, people are left without tickets, they actually go directly to the box office and get better ones, people signed up to forums for legacy codes and the fandom learns what a legacy status is, TikToks are made about them 🤣. 
I do think she could do more dates as she would have sold two stadiums (5 or 6 Palacio de los Deportes) it would be incredible if they were in another two viable cities because it would become “the Event”, but they have never cared about those two other markets, not sure why as income and population is comparable to other cities in Latam she has already visited. 
I’m already nervous about getting tickets for the third date 🤣

You have been such a source of positivity throughout these last weeks, I truly hope you get tickets for the third date ❤️

[Tiago Lisboa Rodrigues 1,231]

3 hours ago, andifeel said:

There’s clearly demand - fingers crossed there’s enough shows so people aren’t dissappointed.  
 

There hasn’t been this demand for a madonna tour since Drowned World, it’s so great for her. 

Okay now, let's not push it. 

She has more demand now than some of her tours but she doesn't have more demand than her 2001 / 2012 period. 

S&S alone had these dates in the UK alone:

2008: August 23 - Cardiff - Wales - Millennium Stadium - 33,460 / 33,460 - $5,279,107

September 11 - London England - Wembley Stadium - 73,349 / 73,349 - $11,796,540

2009: July 4 / 5 - London England - The O2 Arena - 27,464 / 27,464 - $5,873,149

July 7 - Manchester - Manchester Evening News Arena - 13,457 / 13,457 - $2,827,517

She did 8 dates at Wembley Arena in 2006, plus a stadium in Wales.

She did 2 dates in Manchester and 6 dates in England in 2004.

She did Hyde Park for MDNA and Birmingham, she did a stadium in Scotland, another one in Ireland. 

This is UK and Ireland only. 

For this tour she's doing...6 arena dates at the O2 and you still have tickets for the last 2 shows. She might have around 80k people for these 6 shows. To put this in perspective...that's a bit more than the 73k people she had at Wembley stadium in 2008. 

[Dj Garrido 1,689]

8 hours ago, Fabiolous said:

I might be in the minority but I hope she keeps her hair red for the tour. We've seen her blonde 20000 times, it wouldn't be as exciting. And if she whips out a wig, I hope she brings the pink wig back.

I believe she will have fun changing hair colours and wigs in every section. That would be nice to have a red Madonna on stage. But I cannot concept a entire show withou seeing  Madonna in blond hair. 

[Blue Jean 15,234]

9 hours ago, Fabiolous said:

I might be in the minority but I hope she keeps her hair red for the tour. We've seen her blonde 20000 times

I’d be very surprised if she doesn’t go blonde again, it’s a 40 year celebration tour and nobody recognises her with this current hairstyle.
 

My bf saw a meme of Madonna singing Unholy and told me “I thought that was Madonna at first.” I had to inform him that IS her.

[Ian 2,262]

she'll sport whatever she'll want and y'all just have to deal , k?

 

[Pedro Beltran 4,200]

Third Mexico City date ✨🕺🏻✨🕺🏻

 

Edited April 27, 2023 by Pedro Beltran (see edit history)

[David3333 24]

What it doesn’t say is “third and FINAL date added.”

[Robertthenurse 2,914]

Mutha is gonna be BUSY. God I can't even work 84 shifts in 6 months...JESUSSS

[androiduser 2,446]

not sure if I'm right, but to me it seems that with touring, rehearsals and travel and getting ready for the show each night is more exhausting than the actual 2-hour performance.

[Neil 463]

19 hours ago, Tiago Lisboa Rodrigues said:

Okay now, let's not push it. 

She has more demand now than some of her tours but she doesn't have more demand than her 2001 / 2012 period. 

S&S alone had these dates in the UK alone:

2008: August 23 - Cardiff - Wales - Millennium Stadium - 33,460 / 33,460 - $5,279,107

September 11 - London England - Wembley Stadium - 73,349 / 73,349 - $11,796,540

2009: July 4 / 5 - London England - The O2 Arena - 27,464 / 27,464 - $5,873,149

July 7 - Manchester - Manchester Evening News Arena - 13,457 / 13,457 - $2,827,517

She did 8 dates at Wembley Arena in 2006, plus a stadium in Wales.

She did 2 dates in Manchester and 6 dates in England in 2004.

She did Hyde Park for MDNA and Birmingham, she did a stadium in Scotland, another one in Ireland. 

This is UK and Ireland only. 

For this tour she's doing...6 arena dates at the O2 and you still have tickets for the last 2 shows. She might have around 80k people for these 6 shows. To put this in perspective...that's a bit more than the 73k people she had at Wembley stadium in 2008. 

These are great stats but they don’t tell the full story. Madonna hasn’t had instant sellouts like this *in the UK* since 2001.
(Have edited as I wasn’t clear I was talking UK only!) 

To help you out:

Cardiff S&S was under half capacity. Cardiff can house 70,000 for shows. 30,000 is still a huge number though. 

Wembley S&S was supposed to have two dates; the first show sold slowly and certainly didn’t shift Celebration level tickets in such a period of time. Again - 74,000 people for at the time was the biggest gross in Wembley history was still an awesome achievement - no misery here!

The second date to be put on sale for Reinvention in Manchester was papered and discounted to fill it. Her second S&S Manchester show sold under 3000 tickets and was cancelled. MDNA Hyde Park had a capacity of 85,000 but only pulled 54,000. Still a great figure! But remember Boxscores are submitted by the promoters, the sales are verified but capacities are obviously not (fans invented the concept of “technical sellouts” years ago to try and explain this but that was pure fan fiction).

None of the other shows you list sold as many tickets in such a short space of time. That’s not to say they weren’t fantastic sales but they still had a lot of tickets available long after the onsales. Which is normal in the UK - rarely do we see the level of sales for any artist arena shows like we did Madonna. The most I can liken it too recently would be a comedian, Peter Kaye, who sold 20, 30 maybe more arenas out in a day. 

Had she put 6 dates on in Birmingham and 6 in Manchester on top of the 4 in London they would have sold such was the initial panic demand; which then tailed off.

Anyway, hope this is useful context, the fact remains that Madonna hasn’t had this level of immediate sellout in the UK since 2001, and that is brilliant. 
 

(And no one is trashing her previous successes! Just keeping it to fact for comparison purposes)

[androiduser 2,446]

what has ALWAYS amused me the most is how it's perfectly fine to criticize past eras in order to justify and glorify the new era, and say things completely opposite of what was being said previously.

[Tiago Lisboa Rodrigues 1,231]

47 minutes ago, andifeel said:

These are great stats but they don’t tell the full story. Madonna hasn’t had instant sellouts like this since 2001.

To help you out:

Cardiff S&S was under half capacity. Cardiff can house 70,000 for shows.

Wembley S&S was supposed to have two dates; the first show sold slowly and certainly didn’t shift Celebration level tickets in such a period of time.

The second date to be put on sale for Reinvention in Manchester was papered and discounted to fill it. Her second S&S Manchester show sold under 3000 tickets and was cancelled. MDNA Hyde Park had a capacity of 85,000 but only pulled 54,000. Still a great figure! But remember Boxscores are submitted by the promoters, the sales are verified but capacities are obviously not (fans invented the concept of “technical sellouts” years ago to try and explain this but that was pure fan fiction).

None of the other shows you list sold as many tickets in such a short space of time. That’s not to say they weren’t fantastic sales but they still had a lot of tickets available long after the onsales.

Had she put 6 dates on in Birmingham and 6 in Manchester on top of the 4 in London they would have sold such was the initial panic demand; which then tailed off.

Anyway, hope this is useful context, the fact remains that Madonna hasn’t had this level of immediate sellout in the UK since 2001, and that is brilliant. 

I was about to disagree, but with your last sentence i realized you meant UK only, so i agree with you there. If you check her tour page on her webiste, you can buy tickets for 40 shows out of 83. Almost half. 

That said, plenty of these dates are 2nd dates in each city, and will sellout for sure by the time she hits the road.

The dates that i'm honestly shocked is the latest ones she added in the USA. NYC sold out MSG so fast with 4 dates...yet her December dates for Brooklyn are at like 50% sold. Why do i feel if they had these dates in the first place they would have sold better by now? It's like the initial hype was all gone in a week. It's weird. 

The worst of them all? Nashville... what is this:

They even covered those 4 sections in each side. I seriously hope she doesn't cancel this one date. It was the main point of the PR statement they sent out. It's a shame it's the one date that's selling the least. 

[androiduser 2,446]

10 minutes ago, Tiago Lisboa Rodrigues said:

The dates that i'm honestly shocked is the latest ones she added in the USA.

Additional dates definitely don't have the hype of the tour announcement, and they will be slower to sell out, but that's perfectly normal... there will be seats available up to the day of the performance, but I'm sure the shows will do well in the end.

[BuggedOut 4,121]

32 minutes ago, androiduser said:

what has ALWAYS amused me the most is how it's perfectly fine to criticize past eras in order to justify and glorify the new era, and say things completely opposite of what was being said previously.

Examples?

[Robertthenurse 2,914]

31 minutes ago, Tiago Lisboa Rodrigues said:

I was about to disagree, but with your last sentence i realized you meant UK only, so i agree with you there. If you check her tour page on her webiste, you can buy tickets for 40 shows out of 83. Almost half. 

That said, plenty of these dates are 2nd dates in each city, and will sellout for sure by the time she hits the road.

The dates that i'm honestly shocked is the latest ones she added in the USA. NYC sold out MSG so fast with 4 dates...yet her December dates for Brooklyn are at like 50% sold. Why do i feel if they had these dates in the first place they would have sold better by now? It's like the initial hype was all gone in a week. It's weird. 

The worst of them all? Nashville... what is this:

They even covered those 4 sections in each side. I seriously hope she doesn't cancel this one date. It was the main point of the PR statement they sent out. It's a shame it's the one date that's selling the least. 

That's terrifying how many seats are left there. I agree. Wtf do you do as the artist and promoter. On one end you don't want to cancel cuz it looks bad as the sales are shit, and on the other you want to bring the show to a place that is unfortunately smothered in bigotry and hatred -- and give the community (of LGBTQ+) what they need. 

[rga98 379]

2 hours ago, David3333 said:

What it doesn’t say is “third and FINAL date added.”

I think it's implicit. I mean even if it did that wouldn't mean it's the last date. The 4th and 5th London dates were announced as "final dates" and she announced more. I think (PERSONALLY) that 3 dates is enough for Mexico City. I'd rather she announce more dates in Monterrey and Guadalajara.

[rga98 379]

38 minutes ago, Tiago Lisboa Rodrigues said:

I was about to disagree, but with your last sentence i realized you meant UK only, so i agree with you there. If you check her tour page on her webiste, you can buy tickets for 40 shows out of 83. Almost half. 

That said, plenty of these dates are 2nd dates in each city, and will sellout for sure by the time she hits the road.

The dates that i'm honestly shocked is the latest ones she added in the USA. NYC sold out MSG so fast with 4 dates...yet her December dates for Brooklyn are at like 50% sold. Why do i feel if they had these dates in the first place they would have sold better by now? It's like the initial hype was all gone in a week. It's weird. 

The worst of them all? Nashville... what is this:

They even covered those 4 sections in each side. I seriously hope she doesn't cancel this one date. It was the main point of the PR statement they sent out. It's a shame it's the one date that's selling the least. 

Tbh I think the December/January US leg was unnecessary. Especially the extra NY/LA dates. She left lots of European countries and cities behind this time and the first US leg covers it all pretty well. I think they were booked specifically to fill the void between Europe and Mexico / Latinamerica but I think visiting Switzerland, Austria, Norway, Poland, Czech Republic, etc instead would've been a better filler for December.

[Lilalo 79]

Like I said previously , I have friends in Nashville and they are waiting to see what time she comes onstage and the setlist, if she starts pulling her previous late BS and the setlist is subpar I’m afraid the rest of those shows won’t move many tickets at all if any, fingers crossed though she delivers. 

[androiduser 2,446]

21 minutes ago, rga98 said:

Tbh I think the December/January US leg was unnecessary. Especially the extra NY/LA dates. She left lots of European countries and cities behind this time and the first US leg covers it all pretty well. I think they were booked specifically to fill the void between Europe and Mexico / Latinamerica but I think visiting Switzerland, Austria, Norway, Poland, Czech Republic, etc instead would've been a better filler for December.

I think it has a lot to do with slowly moving the production to Mexico - it's much more cost-effective to bring the whole stage production to the US and movie it around California/Nevada/Arizona on one side, and NY/Washington/Tennessee on the other, than to move it around Europe and then go all the way to Mexico from there. Shipping and travel costs are a major part of the itinerary. Tours are about making money first and foremost, pleasing the fans comes second.

[Pedro Beltran 4,200]

Yeah what I can account for the speed of the Mexican sell outs has been impressive, since S&S as she she didn’t tour for ages. MDNA and RH second dates took ages to sell out, and Celebration did almost instantly.

[MDNA22 1,194]

I do agree there will be a lot of people waiting to see the set list before buying tickets - and most likely sales will go up again after opening night 

[Nemanja 53]

6 hours ago, rga98 said:

Tbh I think the December/January US leg was unnecessary. Especially the extra NY/LA dates. She left lots of European countries and cities behind this time and the first US leg covers it all pretty well. I think they were booked specifically to fill the void between Europe and Mexico / Latinamerica but I think visiting Switzerland, Austria, Norway, Poland, Czech Republic, etc instead would've been a better filler for December.

All these US date will be sold out, probably when tour start(there are 9-10 months to them). I kinda think she will add another Europe leg next year for summer, they only  said US is finished.

[Neil 463]

7 hours ago, Tiago Lisboa Rodrigues said:

I was about to disagree, but with your last sentence i realized you meant UK only,

 

Yes! Sorry if I wasn’t clear - my mistake! 

Re : Nashville - several dates looked like similar to this before Rebel Heart tour shows (Toronto 2 for example was half sold the week before the show, we were worried!). There are methods to fill arenas up in the UK and US - agencies specialise in selling cut price tickets and doing mass giveaways through local promoters and businesses. In the UK, Beyonce, Taylor Swift, Kylie Diana Ross, Steps off the top of my head have cleared THOUSANDS of unsold tickets the week before stadium and arena shows to fill them up.
 

I would also guess when the tour kicks off there will be a massive media campaign to highlight the setlist, advertise she’s back on tour with local markets re-hyping those 2024 US dates and possibly a return to Europe in summer 2024.

[EgoRod 5,448]

The Q1, the first quarter of the year is always slow for business. Having to pick up from Xmas expenses, ending the financial year. People having to take holidays (if they can) before March and the inflation and state of the economy right now. From now on is when summer festivals, concerts are more promoted and there's a tendency to spend more and look for leisure expenses. I'm sure all of the ticket sale will start happening towards June.

[MDNA22 1,194]

I expect she will go to Australia and Japan again in 2024