rgdlee 274 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Pootz333 said: Cher went through this period for a while too where every single story was front loaded with the plastic surgery storyline. People seemed to stop giving a shit after a while though. I wish she would do a podcast. The difference is Cher chose to acknowledge her plastic surgery and openly talk about it contrary to Madonna’s vague attitude towards such topics. That said, Madonna has her every right to refuse to comment on her personal (not looking good) choices. nito84bcn and heikeeduardo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jean 15,254 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 I can’t believe there are people in here basically saying women at the gym are “asking for it.” A new low for infinity. Leandro Gomes, kesiak, heikeeduardo and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jean 15,254 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 MADONNA IS A LIVING LEGEND. People that trash her on social media and fan forums are NOTHING. The end. heikeeduardo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondebenji 1,888 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 I'm so glad she s come out and fought back. I'm fed up with it. Sheesh she must be. Any of the people who write terrible comments about her on the internet should be ashamed. But they wont. They will just move on to the next days target. Very sad. heikeeduardo, HNS, sara94 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jean 15,254 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, blondebenji said: I'm so glad she s come out and fought back. I'm fed with it. Sheesh she must be. Any of the people who write terrible comments about her on the internet should be ashamed. But they wont. They will just move on to the next days target. Very sad. They’re miserable losers. sara94, Rodrigo Olivero, blondebenji and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondebenji 1,888 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 2 hours ago, rgdlee said: IMO, the battle Madonna is currently fighting is societal phobia about plastic surgery, which is regardless of age or gender. Sorry not true. there are 30 yr olds all over social media with lips bigger than Australia and butts to match.. Just look at every reality program. And no one says a thing. It most certainly is about age. So much more acceptable for a 30 something to have work done. than a 60 something. Its seen as desperate and trying to hold onto to youth. fjm, gafuller, Andreo and 3 others 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RUADJAI 14,978 Posted February 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2023 Ok.. look. The point is… Madonna has chosen how she wishes to present herself. If you do not like it, don’t comment. It isn’t welcome. If you don’t like a “look” outfit, hairstyle, bleached eyebrows, Sure, ok, say it and move on. But do not come to Infinity to discuss someone’s face… or body for that matter. Making negative comments about ANYONE’S appearance whether god given (I don’t believe in god) or chosen isn’t welcome. Some people aren’t born beautiful (me included), some are not born able bodied, some are not born healthy. Some people change how they want to look to line up with how they feel. Some people have things beyond their control that they have to deal with. By your constant insistence that she conform to beauty standards that she OBVIOUSLY doesn’t want to conform to or CANT conform to you are implying that your respect for her is conditional. She must look a certain way to have your respect. So what about all the other people you meet in your lifetime that don’t live up to these standards? Do you live up to these standards yourself? If you don’t it will probably eat you alive from the inside these IDEAS you have at some point. I can tell you from a personal perspective, I have had things beyond my control happen to me in the past 5-7 years that have aged me like milk squirted out of an asshole on a hot summer day and thank god I’m not famous and don’t have to ANSWER to entitled little twats who have some idea in their head of what I SHOULD BE or how I SHOULD look. Believe me, I already have that idea for myself. So when someone ages or their appearance changes and they already have a negative feeling about themselves, why would it be necessary for you to add your insignificant opinion to further bring someone down? Is this the kind of treatment you give to your aging mother? Do you just spit in her face because she isn’t Naomi Campbell? I don’t think Sam Smith is very attractive, but I don’t feel a need to go into his instagram comments and say nasty things about him. and thank god she is a strong woman, because I can imagine if she wasn’t … the comments would completely ruin her. And maybe they do, she just doesn’t show it to us/anyone. EgoRod, IconicQueen, Roland Barthes and 17 others 17 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUADJAI 14,978 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 And if you didn’t read my book above… Negative comments about Madonna’s or anyone’s body or face isn’t welcome. If you need to do it, go somewhere else. EgoRod, blondebenji, MattyMads and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Barthes 5,850 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Ayham said: Playing the role of victim, she did this to herself… it’s not about her getting older… it’s about how bad she did to her face seeking youth…. Totally nonsense. If she’s happy with her current appearance why she photoshop her pics??? What’s the point of doing all these plastic surgeries yet you can’t post a damn pic without filtering the hell out of it??!?! Confusing. Her speech wasn’t special or groundbreaking. Same old story. Also why we still boxing individuals into categories??? I didn’t know Kim was a man until now… let’s just talk about her talent (she got 0 talent tho). Their talent/art without the need of categorizing people. I've just boxed you into one. acolyte, EgoRod, kesiak and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Barthes 5,850 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 47 minutes ago, RUADJAI said: Ok.. look. The point is… Madonna has chosen how she wishes to present herself. If you do not like it, don’t comment. It isn’t welcome. If you don’t like a “look” outfit, hairstyle, bleached eyebrows, Sure, ok, say it and move on. But do not come to Infinity to discuss someone’s face… or body for that matter. Making negative comments about ANYONE’S appearance whether god given (I don’t believe in god) or chosen isn’t welcome. Some people aren’t born beautiful (me included), some are not born able bodied, some are not born healthy. Some people change how they want to look to line up with how they feel. Some people have things beyond their control that they have to deal with. By your constant insistence that she conform to beauty standards that she OBVIOUSLY doesn’t want to conform to or CANT conform to you are implying that your respect for her is conditional. She must look a certain way to have your respect. So what about all the other people you meet in your lifetime that don’t live up to these standards? Do you live up to these standards yourself? If you don’t it will probably eat you alive from the inside these IDEAS you have at some point. I can tell you from a personal perspective, I have had things beyond my control happen to me in the past 5-7 years that have aged me like milk squirted out of an asshole on a hot summer day and thank god I’m not famous and don’t have to ANSWER to entitled little twats who have some idea in their head of what I SHOULD BE or how I SHOULD look. Believe me, I already have that idea for myself. So when someone ages or their appearance changes and they already have a negative feeling about themselves, why would it be necessary for you to add your insignificant opinion to further bring someone down? Is this the kind of treatment you give to your aging mother? Do you just spit in her face because she isn’t Naomi Campbell? I don’t think Sam Smith is very attractive, but I don’t feel a need to go into his instagram comments and say nasty things about him. and thank god she is a strong woman, because I can imagine if she wasn’t … the comments would completely ruin her. And maybe they do, she just doesn’t show it to us/anyone. Body nazis everywhere. How dare people not conform to what they believe is right and most of all don't ask their permission first because they apparently believe they have authority over everyone's bodies ! They act so entitled they don't even understand they have a pathological control issue. It irks them so much they even justify sexual harassment for example like it happened a few posts back and they still don't see the problem is them. They can't fathom the world and people are not in their image. God complex i guess. I relate to what you say. 11 years ago i battled a disease and had to go to the hospital 3 times a week to get cortisone injections plus steroids and antibiotics. I bloated, i was tired. I could not go to the gym anymore. In fact one day i ended up crying there because i just did not have the strengh anymore and i felt like my body was not mine anymore, like i had no control over it. My will had come to its limits and so was my body which is a very disturbing experience. After two months into the treatment i just could not leave bed for a whole day when i got back from the hospital. One day i was in the subway going home from the hospital and i heard this group of teenage gays talking about me, saying loudly "look at this one ! He's bloated !". I did not mind them but after hearing that i realized we were the only ones in that car so it was about me. It cut so deep i felt like i had no skin anymore, totally exposed to the world and so fragile i thought i could break every step i'd make. nito84bcn, EgoRod, DiegoLCL and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayham 5,483 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Why my comment is not showing???? @Jackie @RUADJAI seriously??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUADJAI 14,978 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Ayham said: Why my comment is not showing???? @Jackie @RUADJAI seriously??? Because you intentionally said transphobic shit and are continuing to talk shit about her face. Let me know if you have more problems. EgoRod, DiegoLCL, Frank and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Lover 1,010 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 7 hours ago, PaperFaces said: It's like those women at the gym who complain they are sexualized but work out in their goddamn underwear. Take. Some. Responsibility. Jesus Christ what a disgusting thing to say fjm, SecretProject, acolyte and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayham 5,483 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, RUADJAI said: Because you intentionally said transphobic shit and are continuing to talk shit about her face. Let me know if you have more problems. Intentionally??? Transphobic??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUADJAI 14,978 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, Ayham said: Intentionally??? Transphobic??? YES! KIM PETRAS IS NOT A MAN! Frank, heikeeduardo, EgoRod and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayham 5,483 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, RUADJAI said: YES! KIM PETRAS IS NOT A MAN! She was, wasn’t intentionally trying to offend anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alibaba 1,519 Posted February 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2023 Madonna is absolutely right. Why do we feel entitled to question her sense of responsibility?! Does she have a responsibility to be any particular way, to age in any particular way, to create in any particular way? I am as guilty as anyone of immediately passing judgment whenever I see her lately…assessing her and objectifying her as if she is devoid of humanity and simply a figment of entertainment and amusement; like an extension of a franchise. There’s such complexity to this woman that it is indeed an abomination that we often don’t show her any respect for being an extraordinarily accomplished human being alone. And she’s still creating, still performing, still being an amazing example of being ALIVE! I don’t know if I can contribute to this community anymore because I want to be able to actively explore this relationship that we all have to Madonna, but I am so disappointed in myself for constantly judging her. I feel like a hypocrite because a part of me is uncomfortable with Madonna aging, and it causes a sense of entitlement to not accept her for who she is. Many of us do somehow subconsciously expect to her be reminiscent of something that came long before…we want to see elements of the young, blonde Material Girl, the Papa Don’t Preach pixie, the ethereal sorceress of Frozen…the list goes on because she is an amalgam of images and performances. It’s an impossible reconciliation sometimes! So much material to pull from! And somehow in her own unique, unexpected ways, she does give winks to her long history, but she is always truly and utterly modern/contemporary. I think it makes many of us uncomfortable because it reminds us at times that we aren’t really living fully. You have to be brave to be truly living. Not comfortable. Unafraid. Madonna truly does walk the walk. I have to eat crow here and bow my head in shame at having felt it was okay to let my own prejudice overwhelm my higher judgment in scrutinizing lately with such negativity. I do think it’s time for me to just fully accept Madonna as whatever she wants to be, and take a leaf out of her book. At first I was saddened to think that Madonna was pushed to defend herself…because it clearly shows that it does reach her, and it does hurt on some level. Then, when I took the time to properly read her words, I realized how much wisdom is contained within and how universal her message is! She is truly one of a kind. heikeeduardo, VogueMusic, Brendanlovesu1 and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EgoRod 5,451 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 13 hours ago, PaperFaces said: My point was that Madonna’s face has nothing to do with the “Patriarchy”. I just illustrated that it’s beginning to be a bit much and im allowed to think that. If my other points are failing to comme across on a Madonna fan board , then thats something i shouldve saved for a live conversation. But I stand by what i said. Her right to do it. Whatever the reasons. My right to feel like im having trouble relating to her because of it. I felt the same about Michael Jackson. Where does your Patriarchy and male privilege sit on that? Patriarchy is a system/ structure on society where privileges and elements of power fell into the man, the male. The male delegates , argues and places his opinions and preferences over those of the female. In a patriarchal society the women have to appeal to the men with beauty, self care, servitude and submission. That's her responsibility. While the man holds his power based on wealth the women need to be beautiful, available , compliant. When Madonna complains about the patriarchy means about how her beauty, her sex appeal and her presentation has to be always scrutinized and judged based on these references. She can't be wealthy, independent, smart. She can't choose who to sleep with or how to look after herself. She's trapped on a society that push the beauty card on her but she gets criticized for doing as she pleases. And as you clear gave an example in your own charade, men still have their own opinions about women looks and think they have the right to tell them how they suppose to look or to be. They have to be responsible. For what? To please men with the same mentality like yours? What embarrassment. You have guys like Mick Jager having a baby at 73 and everyone cheering about his manhood but then discussing how Madonna can't age gracefully . Check yourself, as @Roland Barthes suggested. Go for a walk and re read what you wrote again. And go for another walk. DiegoLCL, RUADJAI, VogueMusic and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prayer 14,375 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 She's truly a legend. I bet in 20-30-40 years Beyoncé, Miley, etc. won't have to deal with the same amount of S**T about her age and looks she is dealing with on every single appearance now. LET PEOPLE LIVE. Live your own life. That's the message she's always sent. Do something good with your life. You. Don't. Own. Her. rlittler81, Andreo, Frank and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teammadonna 395 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Edward I Longshanks said: You do realize those pictures on her social media are photoshopped and edited to hell and back right? I agree that the constant stream of hatred over the way she looks now is cruel and the media exploits this but please don't take any of us for fools and try to say that Madonna's Instagram is how she looks in person. You are a personal friend of Madonna, so have you recently met Madonna personally? I don't think so. So how dare you say that the photos Madonna posted directly on her Instagram are photoshopped? Don't be fooled by the misogynistic media. it's toxic. Edited February 8, 2023 by teammadonna (see edit history) Ziploc, heikeeduardo, nito84bcn and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayham 5,483 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 3 hours ago, blondebenji said: Sorry not true. there are 30 yr olds all over social media with lips bigger than Australia and butts to match.. Just look at every reality program. And no one says a thing. It most certainly is about age. So much more acceptable for a 30 something to have work done. than a 60 something. It’s seen as desperate and trying to hold onto to youth. Nope, it’s not about age it’s about who you are! Those you mentioned are just influencers… you can’t compare them to Madonna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50ft Queenie 2,787 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 37 minutes ago, teammadonna said: You are a personal friend of Madonna, so have you recently met Madonna personally? I don't think so. So how dare you say that the photos Madonna posted directly on her Instagram are photoshopped? Don't be fooled by the misogynistic media. it's toxic. You are right, we all know its not possible to tell that a persons posts are photoshopped unless we know them personally and examine them with a magnifying glass in careful detail. I submit to the brilliance of your logic, look out everyone, I think we have the next Einstein among us in this forum. Thank you for blessing me with your overflowing fountain of knowledge. Ziploc and Ayham 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redha DBL 7,349 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 She has also posted a long message on Instagram. I believe she is right when she says some press photographers use long lenses cameras to get bad close ups of her cause when we see her in videos she doesn't look like on those bad pictures. fjm, VogueMusic, Andreo and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redha DBL 7,349 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 I'm literally exhausted defending Madonna on social medias since yesterday ! I know it's useless and i cannot educate people on how it's not okay to judge anyone physical apperance but i just can't help commenting. I seriously consider learning to stop commenting, it's a pure waste of time and energy. My friends on facebook must think i'm crazy and that i defend Madonna as if she's my mother or my wife lol ! VogueMusic, momosfantasy, blondebenji and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sara94 2,210 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, TonyMontana said: I'm literally exhausted defending Madonna on social medias since yesterday ! I know it's useless and i cannot educate people on how it's not okay to judge anyone physical apperance but i just can't help commenting. I seriously consider learning to stop commenting, it's a pure waste of time and energy. My friends on facebook must think i'm crazy and that i defend Madonna as if she's my mother or my wife lol ! Its depressing asf. We had such a great time after the tours announcement and now its fucking ruined. Every page i go to I see negative stuff about her RUADJAI 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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