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  1. My wallet just jumped off a bridge after reading that.
    8 points
  2. I think it would be wise to let go of any chart dreams for Madonna. Whilst her fight against ageism is noble and right, what 12-30 year old really has any interest in that? When you are in the throws of youth do you really care that a 64 yr old pop star who's had everything has an issue with being overlooked for younger more relevant artists? I'm not saying it's right or wrong I'm just saying that's the way it is. She comes across as either wildly immature on socials or has an axe to grind about something. There's very little in between a lot of the time. Yes there's been some highly edited serves picture wise but aside from being a fascinating insight to the latter days of the worlds biggest star, she's sadly nothing more than a curio for the majority of the record buying / streaming public. They just....don't have an opinion on her cause she really holds no relevance to them. Her last sizeable solo hit in truth was Hung Up when todays 30 year old would have been what? 12/ 13 just as that generation would have been becoming financially valid in terms of music buying / engagement then she's largely faded into the background or seen as the older woman who came for Gaga. As for 30-40 they're in the work years busy living their lives and having kids (outside of the gays)..and when you're grinding hard to make ends meet in some of the toughest economic times in recent history (the last 15 years have been economically disastrous), one of the richest women in the world bemoaning on her socials or flaunting her extreme wealth, doesn't go down too well. 40+ers will generally remember her nostalgically but wonder "what the hell has she done to herself". I can't tell you how many people who I know who have loved her and who are sane reasonable people with a libertarian view, say this. They will want a slice of nostalgia but wouldn't be able to hum a bar of anything past 2005 and will likely only remember the last 15 years of her career for The Brits fall, Eurovision, Her ever morphing body and the Gaga comments. Most 60+ ers will see a peer to whom they can no longer relate. I'm just not sure who Madonna thinks her audience is anymore. There will always be pockets of girls and gays who shout "go on girl" " good for you" "live your best life" "yass queen" and a bunch of people who respect her choices and the voice she has given gay people, the AIDS crisis and female empowerment...but let's be honest. Madonna has started playing to the hardcore fans who buy multiple tickets in the front rows of many of her concerts...and that..isn't the general public. Whilst I have no judgement on that crowd at all..free world, you do you etc...that type of engagement will never transpose in to hitting the wider GP's pockets and hearts. Her socials are nothing short of damaging to her career at this point and while I personally love and adore her and will ALWAYS support and follow her til the end, I am under no illusions. The general view of her is far far far from my own. More often she is simply passed on as uninteresting and "not for me" or "ugh she's at it again" While she is on the right side of history for many many many reasons her commercial viability is......sort of lost in the wilderness a little. Bands like The Bee Gees / ABBA / Queen / Elton / Cher / Fleetwood Mac, some of whom who are still commercially active, have a great like-ability factor and the focus is largely on their past endeavours. I think the biopic really is her last chance to turn a tidal wave of public opinion around and in truth that's the only way to commercial success. Were in an era of like-ability more than ever....and if you don't LIKE or LOVE or FOLLOW someone..you simply don't appear in the world (socials) therefore you don't exist. The world has changed and I think most of the next chapters are just for us until her reappraisal happens and the bowler hat hits the stage floor for the last time.
    8 points
  3. Why? I'm agree with @Alexei I always made cassettes and CDs with True Blue + Who's that Girl tracks, and Bedtime stories + the new tracks from "Something to remember". I don't see the problem...
    5 points
  4. She doesn’t help herself unfortunately, instagram has taken away the mystery that was Madonna.
    4 points
  5. I would like to finally hear the movie versions of Gambler and Crazy For You in full. Oh and Warning Signs
    3 points
  6. She won’t have a comeback until she creates a new persona that people like. And she lost her touch for doing groundbreaking music that also relates to a huge audience. I think Madame X is groundbreaking and well crafted but doesn’t relate to mainstream like her iconic albums
    3 points
  7. So is it looking likely that soundtrack tracks and individual singles will be placed on the nearest album? For example, the 4 tracks from Who's That Girl will become part of a True Blue reissue? You'll See and I Want You will become part of a Bedtime Stories reissue, and so on?
    3 points
  8. I always cry when I make babies
    3 points
  9. Does she not love chowns anymore?
    3 points
  10. Well whatever they release, I will be here to blow a bunch of my money on it regardless.
    3 points
  11. A pre Madonna rock style album is probably what I want from her more than anything else. Some of those tracks are incredible
    3 points
  12. Take A Bow doesn't suit dance mixes. It could certainly have done with a Piano & Guitar acoustic and Orchestral Version though.
    3 points
  13. What really needs to change is that her fans need to step into the present and stop saying "she needs to do this Madge you're above this don't do that" etc because all that catches on and creates a "SEE NOT EVEN HER FANS LIKE HER ANYMORE" environment. It also amuses me how alot crap on the Frozen remix when clearly it was going viral. People complained about insta being too ugly so she finally serves us looks yet people complain there's filters as if shes the first and only person to ever use filters. She really is damned if she does damned if she doesnt. The only difference is that fans try to overcompensate and try to be "anti-stan" and do nothing but bitch.
    3 points
  14. Inside of Me samples Alliyah’s Back and Forth, produced by R. Kelly, so a credit is listed in the BS booklet. But as far as I know that’s M’s only affiliation with him.
    2 points
  15. Idk it’s beautiful. Maybe you need to go through something to fully appreciate it. It took decades for me to finally love it. I love listening to the AMA live performance. Lush!
    2 points
  16. This is one of the best posts I've ever read here. You've hit every nail on the head. I've been asking the "who exactly is her audience?" question for years now, too. If it's the general public, well, they want to hear hits. If it's the gays, they want Confessions. If it's young people, well, that's a delusional dream that needs to die. If it's the hardcore fans, then fine, give us more Madame X type albums...but sis also needs to accept that her time selling out arenas is truly over then. I idolize, love, and defend this woman immensely in real life, but I really don't know how Madonna fans continue to be so confident that if she announces another greatest hits tour, she'll have a Confessions Tour, S&S, MDNA or, hell, even Rebel Heart success again. This woman has DESTROYED her touring reputation. Every. Single. Person. I talk to about having seen her talks about the same things: she's obscenely late, she has a bad attitude, and she doesn't do songs they want to hear. If it had been one tour, fine...but she's been doing this for almost 15 years now. She herself -- not younger popstars, not radio charts, not ticket brokers, not the audience -- has caused her touring career to be where it is, and any attempt to reverse it now feels far too little too late. I never meet people in real life who like her. It's almost universally a response of "oh god, Madonna?" or "I liked her 80s stuff" or "she's so embarrassing and weird now" or whatever else. So when that's the kind of response she gets by and large, how exactly does she get these people to buy an album, go to her show, or even go see the biopic? I'm not so convinced that she couldn't have maintained much larger success than she currently has if she hadn't gone down the route of trying hard to have Millennial / Gen Z Top 40 hits Hard Candy-onwards, remained a professional on her tours, given the general public just a little bit of what they would have liked (she did it perfectly on Confessions and S&S), and never stepped near Instagram. She isn't simply a byproduct of ageism and becoming a legacy act...Madonna was always at her best when she stayed in her own unique lane, didn't read reviews or pay attention to news, and did everything she set out to do with 100% confidence in the art. I hope I'm wrong. I hope she has the most legendary comeback next year or whenever she finally tries to do so. But it's been a long, long time of holding out hope for her to finally get it right again with her career, and I just don't see her ever returning from this vapid social media phase and endless babbling of "artists are here to disturb the peace".
    2 points
  17. Usually, many remastered albums has non-album singles from the closed era. For example, the album Actually (Pet Shop Boys) has the original CD remastered, and a second CD with the remixes made for the original singles, and the non-album singles released a year later: https://www.discogs.com/es/release/11650111-Pet-Shop-Boys-Actually-Further-Listening-19871988
    2 points
  18. oh honey I'll fight you for that role
    2 points
  19. The United state of Americ-ugh famed for it’s taste ? anyone like a side of semi automatic weapon with their pop music?
    2 points
  20. It was easier to align herself with and be maternal towards the Britneys of the world 'cause they weren't a threat. Lady Gaga's force and talent shook her to her core, however, and that is the crux of it; not a supposed soundalike song. Madonna didn't publicly celebrate her fans or talk about youth bullying until Lady Gaga started owning that space. I'm not even that big of a Gaga fan these days but history will show that she shook the industry up in many ways.
    2 points
  21. Secret is better than TAB and the superior song among the Bedtime Stories album, fight me. Even Bedtime Story is better than TAB
    2 points
  22. Ya I don’t think that’s true lol. I’ve never heard of that before. The only people credited for those remixes are Steve Silk Hurley, M.Doc, and Jere Mc
    2 points
  23. Will they fix the error on the remix edit where Madonna ends up singing "all the world loves a chown"? Iol Forget which mix it is but it is crazy noticeable. Haha
    2 points
  24. Ooh I'm seeing a performance concept here. I'll get real nerdy for a minute. The orchestra starts playing a prolonged intro to "I want you". The stage is dimly lit, smoke is covering the stage floor, Madonna is standing in the middle of the stage as she starts singing the song but we can't see her properly, only her outline and her movement. She's in the dark until the end of the second verse when she sings "Ain't it lonely out there" as the spotlight hits her. She's wearing a sheer dark purple robe, her hair is in a straight bob cut right over her shoulders. The band is still in the dark. It's only Madonna and her spotlight. When she finishes singing the song she takes off her robe and reveals a silver chainmail dress. She lights a cigarette and the orchestra moves onto "Bad girl". The stage lights up and we can see the entire band and her backup singers. Towards the end of the song she throws her cigarette onto the floor and lights a ring of fire around her. The orchestra stops playing as she belts out her final "I'm not happy, this way". Her voice still echoes as sirens go off. The light go off one by one, the stage turns pitch black. It is dimly lit once again and "Messiah" starts playing. We see Madonna singing in the dark once again and as she moves into the chorus, the stage is showered by warm light as she sings "I'll light a candle here in the dark". She's now wearing a black dress. Towards the end of the song she's joined by a full choir for a powerful ending.
    2 points
  25. Oh boy, this reads like one of my bad acid trips back in the 80's?
    2 points
  26. I'm gonna take a wild stab at there being 2 releases to kick-start the reissues. I reckon The First Album and Like A Prayer.
    2 points
  27. PS, I hope those demo tapes she listened to on IG while her and Diablo wrote the script are a part of this project. They could probably easily do an album of pre-debut stuff that we've never heard.
    2 points
  28. Madonna attempting a rock album would literally doom any chance of chart success at all, so I think we can rule that one out.
    2 points
  29. There are a million other ideas than Ray Of Light part two. Let it die already hens. a lo-fi record a punk record a dub record a rock album an alt Rnb album an acid house album a psychedelic California album she does not need to revisit old ground so closely. It’s boring.
    2 points
  30. IT WOULD BE THE COMEBACK TO END ALL COMEBACKS Imagine a debut video for the era of this amazing Future. The sun engulfs the planet destroying Madonna, she emerges out of the ground in ashes like a Phoenix and comes as Madame X. The video shows Madame X scouring the Earth recounting tragedies of her past in moments that would’ve prevented the ignorance of climate change and the destruction of mankind.
    2 points
  31. Just like every day we get closer to her releasing the full Harlem performance as promised????
    2 points
  32. Bermu

    2022: Madonna's Comeback?

    Weird or not, I'm just saying my opinion, as valid as yours. I don't find Madame X era thrilling at all, as a M fan. And I dislike all these random social media photshoped pics at all. I like Madame X album, but I don't love it as I love Rebel Heart, MDNA, Confessions, Ray of Light, Like a Prayer or any other. I can't find Madonna, the diva, on it. And I enjoyed watching Madame X Tour online, but my heart was not beating fastly, I didn't feel in real love as with other tours. My opinion, man. Like it or not. Do you understand? My English is not native, not perfect, but my opinion is not weird. You're sounding weird judging my opinion. And I'm not over her, my God... what a drama!!!
    2 points
  33. It's AL era that killed her US singles releases. The rest of the world were not bothered by AL and she continued to enjoy single/album success until she left WB.
    2 points
  34. Give It 2 Me was huge in Europe, TOP 10 in UK, in Spain on the radio was played a lot, even remixes. There's life after billboard. Give It 2 Me is a hit, just not a BB hit I have to laught how a song that is very successful in Continental Europe, Uk, Asia, Oz, Canada and LA but no in USA is a flop and when a song is a hit in US but unknown everywhere else is THE BIGGEST HIT OF ALL TIME. Excuse me no, maybe is the biggest market but not the only market or more important than the rest of entire world together. Taylor and Mariah know a lot about this (with all the respect to them and the great USA)
    2 points
  35. Chart-wise I think the nostalgia era (movie + remasters) will hopefully and surely help and do what the other biopics did :D if we talk about a comeback in terms of new music, I think there are high chances to get an OST for the film but also M15 right after the biopic, imagine getting a movie with an OST, the Reissues with unreleaseds, a definitive hits compilation, M15 and a GH tour! Damn that would be heaven!
    2 points
  36. Give It 2 Me is a great song, it's the best song off that terrible album. I thought it should of been a bigger hit. It has so many great remixes, I never get bored playing it. In fact, I'm gonna play it now.
    2 points
  37. I don’t like that song as the follow-up to “4 Minutes”. The instrumental sounds like it came from an early 2000s video game, and is thus too cheap-sounding (not “cheesy” cheap, but cheap cheap) for chart material. I can understand why Madonna never had a major worldwide hit after that, and don’t blame it on her switching labels for MDNA.
    1 point
  38. People talk a lot about the damage she's done on social media, but I don't use social media at all, so I have no idea what she's supposed to of done ?
    1 point
  39. Why does Beautiful Stranger have to be tacked on to any of her albums?
    1 point
  40. damn, isn't it a bit early to be firing off shots like that?
    1 point
  41. Frozen The Power of Good-bye You Must Love Me
    1 point
  42. I think the odd very select reversion every now and then is fine. I live what has recently been done with Janet’s If. breathes new life into the song I adore it. Something similar for a Madonna track would be fire.
    1 point
  43. Ok let’s all take bets on what the first album to be reissued will be! My Guess is: Like A Prayer
    1 point
  44. I'm still waiting for the pro shot stonewall performance from new years eve a few years ago ?
    1 point
  45. 1 point
  46. So no comment on the Disney princess cartoon filter? Kind of cheapens the point, like the photoshopped edit of her and 50cent she first put up.
    1 point
  47. deathproof

    I FIXED EROTICA

    It was broken?
    1 point
  48. Oh gosh, if she had her way it'd be Paris/Houston/Nice/New Jersey/Barcelona/Japan with studio vocals, filters, quick cuts, random B/W during "Causing a Commotion" and the ponytail/curls changing every few secs.
    1 point
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